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It is 50 here today, sunny and wind only 3mph ... I am going to go work in the garden...

That should get me in a seed starting mood... ha ha
And while out there... I just might pick up my seed starting containers from the garden table... they are due a good scrub!

Actually, I think this "race" will be fun to watch!

Who is the race announcer? Can't be a contestant... You know the guy/gal who says: And they are off... Alex is by far the favorite... but Gixx with his lonely heart is fast gaining, oh my... here comes Apple into the far turn with her volunteer...

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Great post

That was a great post in the "race" thread, got me laughing with the commentator part. 50* must be nice.

I sent this in a PM cause I didn't want to contaminate that thread. I was in the middle of planting things got to get back to that.

Have fun in the sun.

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Woop's I thought I pm'd this guess I didn't :oops: Oh by the way it was to OL
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Well so far you are way ahead gixx! All I have are my teeny little sprouts with their first true leaves and none of them have seen the light of day.


They are Ultimate Opener 57 days, Early Girl 62 days (? if you look it up you find a whole range days to maturity cited; I think this is what the catalog said). The Ultimate Opener was the quickest maturing indeterminate variety I could find.

There is:
Sub Arctic Plenty (45 days to harvest; 3 to 4 ounces; fruit concentrated in center clusters; determinate)

I like indeterminate ones that keep on producing, but if we are going to keep having this race, maybe NEXT year I will have to try the SubArctic (MAY tomatoes any one!? :) :) )

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To tell the truth on another forum there is someone with quite a few tom's in his greenhouse. Sorry, I feel so dirty talking about the other one. :oops: :lol: You know I love you guy's :P.

But that don't count because..... and ......and.... and.....!!

Where is hendi_alex? I would think if he doesn't already have some he would be close, and that definitely counts.

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There are indeed plenty of extra early varieties out there. I agree with Rainbow about indeterminate, truly wonderful to have a plant producing into the frost, but...

In my effort to have the early tomatoes, there are few made the list for me that are determinate varieties. What could possibly give me the June tomatoes - will see, but possible contenders are:

Pipo 2-3oz little guys (Det) 41 days
Fruhe Liebe 1-2oz (Compact Ind) 48 days
Kalinka 4-9oz (Det) 48 days
Noire De Crimee 4-6oz, variation of Black Krim, (IND) 52 days
Early Wonder Pink 3-6oz (Det)

Will see... Non of them of any size yet, nor that I've grown any of these before, but will see!

Good luck to all!

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Dang, and I thought I started mine early. A plant that big in MO, gixxerific? How'd you pull that off? =) Maybe we should separate the contest by month started. lol...Here's a few eh quality camera phone pics of my Rutgers, Persimmon, Better Boy & Wisconsin 55 that I took at lunch today. They were started from seed in dirt on January 23rd.




Rutgers (I think one or two of these need to be "mini-staked"...falling over a tad:
[img]https://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/sfbslb/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAGE_983.jpg[/img]




Persimmon:
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Better Boy:
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Wisconsin 55:
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Steve,

Your pictures very much remind me of my growout last year! I went to the dollar store, bought tons same 16oz cups, seedlings did really well into the transplant to the garden time!

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P.S. Please, share your experience with Persimmon this year! I wanted to grow it out too, but could only do but so many varieties, so it would have to wait till 2011...

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looks like I'm the winner.

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I must have the Late February variety
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Veggie_Gardener those look pretty good. I'm no expert but they look like the should be potted up and buried. That's what I did to mine. The stem will root and build you a better stronger plant. If you already knew that than carry on looking good.

Mine I started in Dec some time maybe early I can't remember exactly and didn't write it down.

Sage hermit it aint over yet I don't see any fruit on that, though there may be.
Do you know you can bury something that big, stripped of leaves sideways in the ground, that would make one killer plant bro.

Still haven't heard from Alex.
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Vinci: Thanks. =) I will let you know how they go. It's my first time growing several of the varieties I'm doing this year; Many heirlooms too! I'm wicked excited about the 2 Sungold's & Black Cherry. I've also been looking forward to growing Amish paste for a few years too.

gixx: Thanks...At 3 and 1/2 weeks old, they will stay in these cups for at least a few more weeks. The roots are reaching the side of the cups well, but have yet to hit the bottoms (at least last time I checked). Last year my mater plants were in them for 8-9 weeks and didn't get root bound. I will keep an eye on them, as I always do though & pot up if necessary. =)

I imagine with as well as the Foliage Pro 9-3-6 is already helping, they may well need to be potted up at 6-7 weeks of age! I love this stuff. I have a ton of 1 gallon nursery pots if that becomes necessary.

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haha im in i guess, im behind already..started early this month
my Brandywine is growing faster then the rest but i started in amended soil while the others just got compost, sand and coco.
ill post the names of my toms, i went all out this year. i got me a nice variety of toms and im not a tomato guy...my neighbors and microbes will enjoy most of what i harvest

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Wow,interesting thread.I should already have plants going but we have been having near freezing temps lately.Just saved some seeds from a homegrown Campari last night,Also have seed from the first round.Those grew very Quick so I better get some seeds into some soil or i don't stand a chance.Well,I am definately in but don't have anything growing but some herbs and strawberries.I will press hard on the Toms. to see what we can eat first.Good luck to all. EarlK 8)
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Here's my contender, currently living in a 8" diam x 9" deep sunny yellow beach pail with two earthworms. :D

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If I can shuffle the containers around enough, I might be able to fit a 5 gal bucket there... 8) I'd like to up-pot to at least a 10" diameter container of similar proportions to a 5 gal bucket... I keep looking at the empty 5 gal jug for the spring water sitting on the floor.... You can cut those up with a saw right? :twisted:

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applestar: We didn't say March tomatoes, we said June ones! ;-) Lovely looking plant! I wish I had the ability to grow them all year round or lived in a zone where I could do so.

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Nice AS you have quite that jungle there. I see a mator. :wink:

Forgot to mention winner get's to buy the materials and build me a raised bed or 2 or 3. :P

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I love everyone's tomato pics... gorgeous!

Good job!

I especially liked Apples photo... did you see the window?

What a contrast, a tiny green tomato growing, and obvious snow on the ground!

Does the window chill the plants any?

I am in trouble here...

I bought Jiffy, Organic Seed Starting Jiffy Mix... just bought it.
I have tried hot water in cups you name it... it drains well, but won't hold moisture... I now have the cups in a dome on top of the fridge, not planted, trying to raise humidity enough to moisten the soil.

Does anyone have more suggestions? The domes are steaming up... maybe the soil will finally absorb some moisture? Weird.

I only filled cups half full, figure as they grow I will use a different potting soil. The styrofoam cups are 8.5 oz. I fit 7 of them in plastic shoe box with lid.

I do not want to put seeds into soil that is not moist... now what?
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I'll be really sad if I don't get ripe tomatoes before June, though I'm in zone 8. Would hope to have my first ripe 'Juliet' in early May. The plants are already forming blossoms, but cold weather has slowed development of the plants, so maybe will be frustrated when it comes to early harvest. As you say, most people in this area get their first ripe tomatoes in late June or early July. I continue to strive for late April, but have not succeeded hitting that early date yet.
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tn_veggie_gardner wrote:applestar: We didn't say March tomatoes, we said June ones! ;-) ...
:shock: Yeah, that!!!

Nice job overwintering this guys, and fruit is already set - nice!!!

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It's the beach bucket -- it thinks it's summertime :cool:
But SHHH! don't spill the beans :lol:

I keep the tomato back enough away from the window so the leaves don't touch the glass (the one time that one did, it promptly got frost bitten). At night time, I draw the cafe curtains between the tomato and the window, making sure to tuck any stray tomato leaf inside of the curtain (which incidentally, helps to reflect the lights back -- 2 CFL lights, aimed sideways, stay on as long as I'm up -- on first thing in the morning, off last thing at night; there's an overhead 75W incandescent in a hanging Tiffany light that is now about 18" from the top of the tomato which gets turned on at dusk and stays on while I'm up).

The row of parsleys, onion bottom sprouts, seedling citruses, and a scented geranium on the window sill stays between the curtain and the window to chill :wink:. The peppers are 1/2 pot further inside to avoid any chance of cold draft, and the jalapeno is right next to a CFL to keep warm. The one other plant, all the way back in the photo, is Stevia, wich is managing to stay alive and occasionally send out new shoots. I added the 2nd CFL on that side early this month or late last month. I think the tomato would be a little less spindly had I done that from the start, but now that the sun is rising further east and earlier, these plants will receive more and more light in this ESE window while the trees remain bare.

Incidentally, I see a jumping spider patrolling the window and the window sill right now 8)

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Looks like CFL addition works rather well!

I'm clearing one of the rooms, that would eventually be a spare bedroom/office, has double windows, going to convert that area for the "spring growout" racks. Need to think about how to add some light there on the budget. As of right now, both windows get good sun light from 12PM till 5pm or so, so a little help would be nice...

In the mean time, letting the sun to warm up some home made potting mix, need to transplant 3 tomatoes to 1 gal containers... Too bad that neither are early varieties. Leftovers from the soil-less mixtures I was testing: Rutgers and Brandywine X Cherokee Purple (or at least I think is what that cross is)

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ok ok, heres what i got going on
all poped out of soil on feb 1

sugar sweete cherry
super sweet 100 cherry
red and yellow brandywine
cherokee purple
speckled roman
beefsteak
and black krim

the chrry toms should give me fruit the earliest (i think) but so far all but brandywine were planted in a coco/compost/casting/sand mix. because of no amendments ther growing pretty slow.
my brandywines were started in recyled amended soil and they are 3-4 times bigger then the rest. :D
i start like 3-5 seeds per party cup, so i moved 2 brandywines out side in the garden. ill re plant the rest of the toms in recyled soil and see what happends.
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[img]https://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll272/applesbucket/Image6441.jpg[/img] It's snowing again...

[img]https://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll272/applesbucket/Image6445.jpg[/img] ...but me and my buds
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I would have to call that a winner. are those peppers on the background?

Looking very awesome Apple making me feel bad looking at my tiny little plants here. :oops:

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Aw, don't feel bad! I told you that Contender is a "Ringer" didn't I?
It's [url=https://www.helpfulgardener.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=99930#99930]one of these guys[/url], and I really wasn't considering it eligible for the race. :roll:

But yes! Those dark green round lumps are sweet peppers (3 on each plant) and the pendant ones (not all in the photo but there are 6) are Jalapenos. They were lugged inside just before first frost in fall. I've been eating the Jalapenos -- I think 3 already. They develop fast. :() Soil surfaces in all three containers are covered with "worm signs" 8)

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Yeah, the rest of us are just starting the race, and Applestar has already won it! Imagine eating home grown tomatoes in the snow! Maybe next year I'll try harder!

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rainbowgardener wrote:Yeah, the rest of us are just starting the race, and Applestar has already won it! Imagine eating home grown tomatoes in the snow! Maybe next year I'll try harder!
It just isn't right is it RG? :P And apple don't worry I'm not over here crying in a ball (or am I). Just jealous of your jungle versus my ant sized jungle. :lol:

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Not so fast applestar this photo was taken on Feb 13. I think I am the wiener.[img]https://www.smileycons.com/img/emotions/220.gif[/img] John
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Jbest didn't you post some pics of your greenhouse on the other forum? I want to say that was you that I was talking about earlier in this thread with toms on their plants already.

Still not fair :P :cry: Oh how I yearn for a fresh tomato. How about you or Apple mail me one?

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I have a question...

You know how tomatoes that you buy in the stores in winter, have no flavor?

If you grow tomatoes inside, without sunshine, will they taste the same as the supermarket ones, or more like the garden fresh ones?
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gixxerific wrote:Jbest didn't you post some pics of your greenhouse on the other forum? I want to say that was you that I was talking about earlier in this thread with toms on their plants already.

Still not fair :P :cry: Oh how I yearn for a fresh tomato. How about you or Apple mail me one?
I think this the photo you seen. It was also taken on Feb 13.[img]https://www.smileycons.com/img/emotions/218.gif[/img] John
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Yes that would be it. I'm going to go cry in my room now. I need a greenhouse. :idea:

By the way welcome to the other side.

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Ah! We have a Challenger! :D
Looking really good jbest -- I already cried "wah!" about a greenhouse, didn't I? :lol: When did you start those toms?

I was trying to count back ... it took the Contender just short of 4 months = 112 days to ripening fruit -- wow that's a long time. Of course, I wasn't really doing anything special for it... it's 64ºF in the Kitchen on the counter right now, so it's probably a bit cooler near the window.... The Contender was an accident, too.... Imagine if it was more carefully considered: variety, container/indoor culture-adapted, hm, hm... Like rainbowgardener, I'm already thinking ahead to next fall... 8)

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applestar wrote: Like rainbowgardener, I'm already thinking ahead to next fall... 8)
Done and done, little by little my friend. Oh it's on next year. I might be starting plants in, well a lot earlier than this year.

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gix: I bought a large cold frane this year so I can avoid those nights crying in my room. ;-)

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This is Oct 8, the Tom plants are on the top left shelf, click to enlarge.
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This photo was taken on Feb 8
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I think we have multiple winners for the February tomatoes...lol. Maybe we should split this up into month by month threads? Lookin nice y'all! I know I speak for a lot of us when I say we're jeaous of your wicked early tomatoes & wish we had the means, zone or whatever to grow them that early ourselves. =)

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Mine haven't even sprouted :shock: :shock: :shock: :lol:!

Congratualtions, everyone, on your great tomato plants. How about we set a universal start date next time...actually, there is still time to set a date! Even if all our plants have started, we can aways make room for one more :wink:.

How about March 1 as the seed-planting date? This way, we can see who can get their tomatoes to grow the fastest and there won't be any "false starts" :wink:. What do you think?

Gix, if I'm totally hijacking your thread, please shoot me a PM and I'll get rid of all this :oops:. We can still try for a June tom, It'll just be from a universal starting date.

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This isn't my thread this is "our" thread and I would have to say JB has it. First tom of the year. Sorry Apple. :(

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Wow!!! Fresh, home grown tomato - nice, very, very nice!!! Congrats on overwintering this guy J!

What wouldn't I do for a taste of a home grown mater right about now... Got the basil though :?

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:lol: Congrats, jbest :lol:

Ozark Lady, how would you report this leg of the "race"? We haven't heard updates from hendi_alex either, though... and there're bound to be other folks lurking :hide: C'mon out! Share your tomatoes! -- Where oh where will my Contender end up?
Stay tuned! :-()

p.s. garden5 if yours haven't sprouted I'm only *slightly* ahead of you -- out of 4, two varieties have their seed leaves unfurled, and two others are just lifting their necks, with a good few of them still goose-necked over. :wink:
My main tomato seed planting will be as of 3/1 as well, which will be 2 weeks earlier than last year.
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