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Re: Kumato Seedling day 7

Sun Mar 14, 2010 8:57 pm

s.studer wrote:what do you think? Not all of them germinated. should I plant more seeds or wait?

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In answer to your question, if you don't have bottom heat or have the seeds in a room temp of 72 or above, it can take 2 weeks or more for the seeds to germinate. Keep moist but not wet. Also, the ones that have germinated look like they need more light. It's a good idea to put them 2~4" under a fluorescent light (CFL or tube). The light will also provide a bit of extra warmth that may help the other seeds to germinate.
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Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:13 pm

Thank you!

Since I am new to this, I have a few more questions:

1. I do have bottom heat, so should I assume the seeds that haven't germinated are not viable and plant some more?
2. Do I have to remove the germinated ones from the heat mat?
3. Also, should I remove the plastic dome or take the ones that have germinated out and put them closer to the light?
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Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:29 pm

Your seedlings are stretching way too much. Move the light to within a couple of inches of the plants.
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Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:40 pm

hendi_alex wrote:Your seedlings are stretching way too much. Move the light to within a couple of inches of the plants.


Yes, I did it immediately. Added 2 fluorescent lights and moved them closer.
I now have 1 t5 and 2 T12 lights over the seedlings.

Thank you for your help
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Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:02 am

I remove the humidity cover and remove the seedling flat to under the lights as soon as I spot the first seedling to lift it's loop above the soil.

My usual rule is, if I spot them sprouting before lights out at night, then I move them first thing in the morning, if I spot them sprouting in the morning, then by lunch time at the very latest.

The reduced temperature, additional air exposure (supplementing with an intermittent air movement with a fan is best) and additional light will help to strengthen the stems. Don't fertilize until they grow true leaves.

Listen, are the seeds you're growing from a store-bought 'Kumato'? Because if it's not, I feel that I should split your query and the subsequent responses to a thread of its own.
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Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:07 am

applestar wrote:I remove the humidity cover and remove the seedling flat to under the lights as soon as I spot the first seedling to lift it's loop above the soil.

My usual rule is, if I spot them sprouting before lights out at night, then I move them first thing in the morning, if I spot them sprouting in the morning, then by lunch time at the very latest.

The reduced temperature, additional air exposure (supplementing with an intermittent air movement with a fan is best) and additional light will help to strengthen the stems. Don't fertilize until they grow true leaves.

Listen, are the seeds you're growing from a store-bought 'Kumato'? Because if it's not, I feel that I should split your query and the subsequent responses to a thread of its own.
Please reply asap.
*** Other members, please refrain from posting in this thread until we get this sorted out. ***


Regarding the seeds, they are the seeds from the Kumato that I grew from store-bought Kumatoes last year. I did bag the flowers and harvested the seeds from fruits that were not cross-pollinated, does that count as store-bought?)

These are some pictures from August 2009
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Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:19 am

Thanks for your quick response -- and for the photos! :D Looks great! Good luck with this year's too! :()

OK, everyone, anyone else growing 'Kumato' toms? This thread's open to posting! :wink:

p.s. I'm also growing DV's Kumato, Jr.'s Started 3/1, germinated 3/6, and just the tip of true leaf starting to show. Took some photos this morning but not uploaded yet. Looking forward to how they turn out. 8)
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Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:25 am

Same here I have D_V's Kumato's, about 5 of them going, and going wel they are. Very healthy I can't wait.

Another month or so huh? before going outside that's a long time.
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Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:01 pm

Dono - I hear you, another month!!! Patience is running out :lol:

s.studer - since I've never grown those myself up to this point - are these indeterminate or determinate? Would you happen to have any pictures of later in the season with mature fruit?

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Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:28 am

DV, do you want to see the Kumato, Jr.'s? Here they are with Campari, Jr.'s
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Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:23 am

Duh_Vinci wrote:Dono - I hear you, another month!!! Patience is running out :lol:

s.studer - since I've never grown those myself up to this point - are these indeterminate or determinate? Would you happen to have any pictures of later in the season with mature fruit?

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I don't know if they are determinate or indeterminate. I was able to harvest in mid September I think and then brought the plants indoors, but they didn't survive long. Unfortunately I didn't think to take any pictures of the plants with mature fruits. The mature fruits looked a lot like this and were really good!
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Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:24 am

applestar wrote:DV, do you want to see the Kumato, Jr.'s? Here they are with Campari, Jr.'s
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Your seedling look so much better than mine!
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Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:44 pm

applestar wrote:DV, do you want to see the Kumato, Jr.'s? Here they are with Campari, Jr.'s


Beautiful, thick little babies Apple!

s.studer wrote:I don't know if they are determinate or indeterminate. I was able to harvest in mid September I think and then brought the plants indoors, but they didn't survive long...

That's too bad they had fairly short season! I've searched many sites, but nowhere I could find it's growth habit, I guess will just have to see this year?

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Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:16 am

I just started a Kumato seed saved from a tomato bought at the grocery store. Kumato's taste A LOT better than any other fresh tomato you can get this time a year, and only $0.10 more per pound. Totally worth it IMO.

I'm interested in how they compare to other tomatoes grown at the height of tomato season. I did find a listing on Tatiana's Tomato Base that says they are indeterminate:

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Kumato

Tatiana's also has a picture.
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Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:24 pm

I was growing Kumato last year. It's a nice and tasty variety, indeterminate, firm (ideal for salads) and juicy. Unfortunately I didn't take any photos (I was to busy saving sees :wink: ). The plant doesn't grow very tall. The fruits are pretty, smooth and shiny.
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