Tomato - Kumato (commercial variety)

[applestar]

what do you think? Not all of them germinated. should I plant more seeds or wait?



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In answer to your question, if you don't have bottom heat or have the seeds in a room temp of 72 or above, it can take 2 weeks or more for the seeds to germinate. Keep moist but not wet. Also, the ones that have germinated look like they need more light. It's a good idea to put them 2~4" under a fluorescent light (CFL or tube). The light will also provide a bit of extra warmth that may help the other seeds to germinate.

[s.studer]

Thank you!

Since I am new to this, I have a few more questions:

1. I do have bottom heat, so should I assume the seeds that haven't germinated are not viable and plant some more?
2. Do I have to remove the germinated ones from the heat mat?
3. Also, should I remove the plastic dome or take the ones that have germinated out and put them closer to the light?


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[hendi_alex]

Your seedlings are stretching way too much. Move the light to within a couple of inches of the plants.

[s.studer]

Your seedlings are stretching way too much. Move the light to within a couple of inches of the plants.

Yes, I did it immediately. Added 2 fluorescent lights and moved them closer.
I now have 1 t5 and 2 T12 lights over the seedlings.

Thank you for your help

[applestar]

I remove the humidity cover and remove the seedling flat to under the lights as soon as I spot the first seedling to lift it's loop above the soil.

My usual rule is, if I spot them sprouting before lights out at night, then I move them first thing in the morning, if I spot them sprouting in the morning, then by lunch time at the very latest.

The reduced temperature, additional air exposure (supplementing with an intermittent air movement with a fan is best) and additional light will help to strengthen the stems. Don't fertilize until they grow true leaves.

Listen, are the seeds you're growing from a store-bought 'Kumato'? Because if it's not, I feel that I should split your query and the subsequent responses to a thread of its own.
Please reply asap.
*** Other members, please refrain from posting in this thread until we get this sorted out. ***

[s.studer]

I remove the humidity cover and remove the seedling flat to under the lights as soon as I spot the first seedling to lift it's loop above the soil.

My usual rule is, if I spot them sprouting before lights out at night, then I move them first thing in the morning, if I spot them sprouting in the morning, then by lunch time at the very latest.

The reduced temperature, additional air exposure (supplementing with an intermittent air movement with a fan is best) and additional light will help to strengthen the stems. Don't fertilize until they grow true leaves.

Listen, are the seeds you're growing from a store-bought 'Kumato'? Because if it's not, I feel that I should split your query and the subsequent responses to a thread of its own.
Please reply asap.
*** Other members, please refrain from posting in this thread until we get this sorted out. ***

Regarding the seeds, they are the seeds from the Kumato that I grew from store-bought Kumatoes last year. I did bag the flowers and harvested the seeds from fruits that were not cross-pollinated, does that count as store-bought?)

These are some pictures from August 2009

[applestar]

Thanks for your quick response -- and for the photos! Looks great! Good luck with this year's too!

OK, everyone, anyone else growing 'Kumato' toms? This thread's open to posting!

p.s. I'm also growing DV's Kumato, Jr.'s Started 3/1, germinated 3/6, and just the tip of true leaf starting to show. Took some photos this morning but not uploaded yet. Looking forward to how they turn out.

[gixxerific]

Same here I have D_V's Kumato's, about 5 of them going, and going wel they are. Very healthy I can't wait.

Another month or so huh? before going outside that's a long time.

[Duh_Vinci]

Dono - I hear you, another month!!! Patience is running out

s.studer - since I've never grown those myself up to this point - are these indeterminate or determinate? Would you happen to have any pictures of later in the season with mature fruit?

Regards,
D

[applestar]

DV, do you want to see the Kumato, Jr.'s? Here they are with Campari, Jr.'s

[s.studer]

Dono - I hear you, another month!!! Patience is running out

s.studer - since I've never grown those myself up to this point - are these indeterminate or determinate? Would you happen to have any pictures of later in the season with mature fruit?

Regards,
D

I don't know if they are determinate or indeterminate. I was able to harvest in mid September I think and then brought the plants indoors, but they didn't survive long. Unfortunately I didn't think to take any pictures of the plants with mature fruits. The mature fruits looked a lot like this and were really good!

[s.studer]

DV, do you want to see the Kumato, Jr.'s? Here they are with Campari, Jr.'s

Your seedling look so much better than mine!

[Duh_Vinci]

DV, do you want to see the Kumato, Jr.'s? Here they are with Campari, Jr.'s

Beautiful, thick little babies Apple!

I don't know if they are determinate or indeterminate. I was able to harvest in mid September I think and then brought the plants indoors, but they didn't survive long...

That's too bad they had fairly short season! I've searched many sites, but nowhere I could find it's growth habit, I guess will just have to see this year?

Regards,
D

[lj in ny]

I just started a Kumato seed saved from a tomato bought at the grocery store. Kumato's taste A LOT better than any other fresh tomato you can get this time a year, and only $0.10 more per pound. Totally worth it IMO.

I'm interested in how they compare to other tomatoes grown at the height of tomato season. I did find a listing on Tatiana's Tomato Base that says they are indeterminate:

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Kumato

Tatiana's also has a picture.

[tomato_girl]

I was growing Kumato last year. It's a nice and tasty variety, indeterminate, firm (ideal for salads) and juicy. Unfortunately I didn't take any photos (I was to busy saving sees ). The plant doesn't grow very tall. The fruits are pretty, smooth and shiny.