I am looking for most any type of fruit plant seedlings or seeds (dwarf fruit trees, mango, kiwi, grape plants, berries, etc.). I'd like to also find some Vanilla Bean plant seeds. I have all kinds of vegetables, flowers, succulents, etc. I can trade for them. Please let me know if you have anything & I can then provide a more detailed list.
Thanks! - Steve
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Want some blackberry and elderberry? I also have mulberry trees, and raspberries. How about may apples, to me they are bland and tasteless, but some folks like them.
Sassafras has neat little lemony smelling fruits (not edible) on them, and I wonder if they will grow from seeds, I will check that out when they make them.
I know, I will watch my paw paws for seeds, most folks have never seen a tropical tree that grows a banana taste alike in cold climates, mine are wild!
Isn't vanilla beans a tree? Maybe like a locust or catalpa? If you get some, share the wealth!
I would love to collect all kinds of natural spices, fruits, nuts, (hey let's don't forget nuts!) Oh yeah, don't let's forget May pops, if anyone finds any, I want some seeds.
Sassafras has neat little lemony smelling fruits (not edible) on them, and I wonder if they will grow from seeds, I will check that out when they make them.
I know, I will watch my paw paws for seeds, most folks have never seen a tropical tree that grows a banana taste alike in cold climates, mine are wild!
Isn't vanilla beans a tree? Maybe like a locust or catalpa? If you get some, share the wealth!
I would love to collect all kinds of natural spices, fruits, nuts, (hey let's don't forget nuts!) Oh yeah, don't let's forget May pops, if anyone finds any, I want some seeds.
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About Vanilla:
The main species harvested for vanillin is Vanilla planifolia. Although it is native to Mexico, it is now widely grown throughout the tropics. Madagascar is the world's largest producer. Additional sources include Vanilla pompona and Vanilla tahitiensis (grown in Tahiti and Niue), although the vanillin content of these species is much less than Vanilla planifolia.[14]
Vanilla grows as a vine, climbing up an existing tree (also called a tutor), pole, or other support. It can be grown in a wood (on trees), in a plantation (on trees or poles), or in a "shader", in increasing orders of productivity. Its growth environment is referred to as its terroir and includes not only the adjacent plants, but also the climate, geography and local geology. Left alone, it will grow as high as possible on the support, with few flowers. Every year, growers fold the higher parts of the plant downwards so that the plant stays at heights accessible by a standing human. This also greatly stimulates flowering.
The distinctively flavored compounds are found in the fruit, which results from the pollination of the flower. One flower produces one fruit. Vanilla planifolia flowers are hermaphroditic: they carry both male (anther) and female (stigma) organs; however, to avoid self-pollination, a membrane separates those organs. The flowers can only be naturally pollinated by a specific Melipone bee found in Mexico (abeja de monte or mountain bee). This bee provided Mexico with a 300 year long monopoly on Vanilla production, from the time it was first discovered by Europeans and the French first transplanted the vines to their overseas colonies, until a substitute was found for the bees. The vines would grow, but would not fruit outside of Mexico. Growers tried to bring this bee into other growing locales, to no avail. The only way to produce fruits without the bees is artificial pollination. And today, even in Mexico, hand pollination is used extensively.
In 1836, botanist Charles François Antoine Morren was drinking coffee on a patio in Papantla (in Veracruz, Mexico) and noticed black bees flying around the vanilla flowers next to his table. He watched their actions closely as they would land and work their way under a flap inside the flower, transferring pollen in the process. Within hours the flowers closed and several days later Morren noticed vanilla pods beginning to form. Morren immediately began experimenting with hand pollination. A few years later in 1841, a simple and efficient artificial hand pollination method was developed by a 12-year-old slave named Edmond Albius on Réunion, a method still used today. Using a beveled sliver of bamboo,[15] an agricultural worker lifts the membrane separating the anther and the stigma, then, using the thumb, transfers the pollen from the anther to the stigma. The flower, self-pollinated, will then produce a fruit. The vanilla flower lasts about one day, sometimes less, and so, growers have to inspect their plantations every day for open flowers, a labor-intensive task.
The fruit, a seed capsule, if left on the plant, will ripen and open at the end; as it dries, the phenolic compounds crystallize, giving the beans a diamond-dusted appearance which the French call givre (hoarfrost). It will then release the distinctive vanilla smell. The fruit contains tiny, flavorless seeds. In dishes prepared with whole natural vanilla, these seeds are recognizable as black specks.
Like other orchids' seeds, vanilla seed will not germinate without the presence of certain mycorrhizal fungi. Instead, growers reproduce the plant by cutting: they remove sections of the vine with six or more leaf nodes, a root opposite each leaf. The two lower leaves are removed, and this area is buried in loose soil at the base of a support. The remaining upper roots will cling to the support, and often grow down into the soil. Growth is rapid under good conditions.
General guidelines
In general, good vanilla will only come from good vines. To achieve such high quality, much labor is required. Commercial vanilla production can be performed under open field and “greenhouseâ€
The main species harvested for vanillin is Vanilla planifolia. Although it is native to Mexico, it is now widely grown throughout the tropics. Madagascar is the world's largest producer. Additional sources include Vanilla pompona and Vanilla tahitiensis (grown in Tahiti and Niue), although the vanillin content of these species is much less than Vanilla planifolia.[14]
Vanilla grows as a vine, climbing up an existing tree (also called a tutor), pole, or other support. It can be grown in a wood (on trees), in a plantation (on trees or poles), or in a "shader", in increasing orders of productivity. Its growth environment is referred to as its terroir and includes not only the adjacent plants, but also the climate, geography and local geology. Left alone, it will grow as high as possible on the support, with few flowers. Every year, growers fold the higher parts of the plant downwards so that the plant stays at heights accessible by a standing human. This also greatly stimulates flowering.
The distinctively flavored compounds are found in the fruit, which results from the pollination of the flower. One flower produces one fruit. Vanilla planifolia flowers are hermaphroditic: they carry both male (anther) and female (stigma) organs; however, to avoid self-pollination, a membrane separates those organs. The flowers can only be naturally pollinated by a specific Melipone bee found in Mexico (abeja de monte or mountain bee). This bee provided Mexico with a 300 year long monopoly on Vanilla production, from the time it was first discovered by Europeans and the French first transplanted the vines to their overseas colonies, until a substitute was found for the bees. The vines would grow, but would not fruit outside of Mexico. Growers tried to bring this bee into other growing locales, to no avail. The only way to produce fruits without the bees is artificial pollination. And today, even in Mexico, hand pollination is used extensively.
In 1836, botanist Charles François Antoine Morren was drinking coffee on a patio in Papantla (in Veracruz, Mexico) and noticed black bees flying around the vanilla flowers next to his table. He watched their actions closely as they would land and work their way under a flap inside the flower, transferring pollen in the process. Within hours the flowers closed and several days later Morren noticed vanilla pods beginning to form. Morren immediately began experimenting with hand pollination. A few years later in 1841, a simple and efficient artificial hand pollination method was developed by a 12-year-old slave named Edmond Albius on Réunion, a method still used today. Using a beveled sliver of bamboo,[15] an agricultural worker lifts the membrane separating the anther and the stigma, then, using the thumb, transfers the pollen from the anther to the stigma. The flower, self-pollinated, will then produce a fruit. The vanilla flower lasts about one day, sometimes less, and so, growers have to inspect their plantations every day for open flowers, a labor-intensive task.
The fruit, a seed capsule, if left on the plant, will ripen and open at the end; as it dries, the phenolic compounds crystallize, giving the beans a diamond-dusted appearance which the French call givre (hoarfrost). It will then release the distinctive vanilla smell. The fruit contains tiny, flavorless seeds. In dishes prepared with whole natural vanilla, these seeds are recognizable as black specks.
Like other orchids' seeds, vanilla seed will not germinate without the presence of certain mycorrhizal fungi. Instead, growers reproduce the plant by cutting: they remove sections of the vine with six or more leaf nodes, a root opposite each leaf. The two lower leaves are removed, and this area is buried in loose soil at the base of a support. The remaining upper roots will cling to the support, and often grow down into the soil. Growth is rapid under good conditions.
General guidelines
In general, good vanilla will only come from good vines. To achieve such high quality, much labor is required. Commercial vanilla production can be performed under open field and “greenhouseâ€
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Very nice looking plant.
I will hold off on those tropical types, until I get the atrium up and going, or the greenhouse. There is simply no way to keep them alive here.
I have found some interesting tropical type seeds here:
https://www.seedman.com/category/unusual-seeds.htm
I have coffee and tea seeds from there, which I need to start.
I don't know about their exotic seeds, but the other seeds from there have germinated fine. I have ordered from them for 2 years running.
You really don't get alot of seeds, but the prices aren't bad.
I will hold off on those tropical types, until I get the atrium up and going, or the greenhouse. There is simply no way to keep them alive here.
I have found some interesting tropical type seeds here:
https://www.seedman.com/category/unusual-seeds.htm
I have coffee and tea seeds from there, which I need to start.
I don't know about their exotic seeds, but the other seeds from there have germinated fine. I have ordered from them for 2 years running.
You really don't get alot of seeds, but the prices aren't bad.
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I didn't freeze any mulberry last year, I was too busy eating them! 
But I have several trees. So, I will gather some fruits and save them this year from different wild trees. Do you think that I can just do them like peppers or should I ferment them?
Hey the elderberries are getting tufts of leaves on them!
The goats were out of their pen again today, but don't seem to have damaged them again. I got more chicken wire today, looks like I need to wrap the stems of them in it, to keep them safe! Since, apparently, the goats are finding ways to escape faster than I can fix the fences! The high winds today, blew over a corner post, I didn't even know it was weak.
There are spots of bark missing on some of the elderberries from earlier escapes. I know if that goes all the way around they are dead, so how do I fix the damage?
But I have several trees. So, I will gather some fruits and save them this year from different wild trees. Do you think that I can just do them like peppers or should I ferment them?
Hey the elderberries are getting tufts of leaves on them!
The goats were out of their pen again today, but don't seem to have damaged them again. I got more chicken wire today, looks like I need to wrap the stems of them in it, to keep them safe! Since, apparently, the goats are finding ways to escape faster than I can fix the fences! The high winds today, blew over a corner post, I didn't even know it was weak.
There are spots of bark missing on some of the elderberries from earlier escapes. I know if that goes all the way around they are dead, so how do I fix the damage?
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re: mulberries...I've had good luck taking mulberries that had dried on pavement under a mulberry tree, and mixing with water/swishing around for planting. if you can let some dry, you can mail whole dried fruit for sharing. the re-wetted fruit mash can be planted as soon as the recipient gets the dried, no need for any stratification or anything. I had healthy four-inch-tall seedlings hardened off for winter fine, the same year I collected the fruit.
re: damaged elderberry - with elder, chances are good it'll re-sprout from the base if it does get ringed all the way around...otherwise you might be able to do a bridge graft over the affected area.
re: damaged elderberry - with elder, chances are good it'll re-sprout from the base if it does get ringed all the way around...otherwise you might be able to do a bridge graft over the affected area.
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I wonder if that will work for elderberries? While I am thinking about it, I am going to grab some frozen ones, and stick them in some dirt!
Can you dry them in a dehydrator?
I could screen dry them, if dehydrator temps are an issue.
My poultry, and even the dogs, basically sit under the tree waiting for the treat to fall!
I get my ladder out and go after my treat!
Can you dry them in a dehydrator?
I could screen dry them, if dehydrator temps are an issue.
My poultry, and even the dogs, basically sit under the tree waiting for the treat to fall!
I get my ladder out and go after my treat!
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