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Re: Lost Crops of the Incas

Here's one source
https://www.rareseeds.com/store/vegetables/amaranth/

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Re: Lost Crops of the Incas

Thanks Eric.

After further searching, it seems that the Kiwicha is also known as "Love-lies-bleeding" here in the states, and is available from many suppliers. Amaranthus caudatus. Amazingly, it is possible that this is the Amaranth that was grown by Thomas Jefferson at Montecello. It is available from the Monticello shop: https://www.monticelloshop.org/600081.html

As I think I mentioned in one of my posts last year, I had read the then new book on Jefferson's Monticello vegetable garden, so this has become of particular interest to me.

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Re: Lost Crops of the Incas

Still digging oca and mashua - we've probably got some unusually cold weather coming and I want to get it all in.

But, the ulluco harvest is done and was almost worth the effort just for the picture:

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Re: Lost Crops of the Incas

really cool link and thread
not sure how well most of these will do in Ohio, but I would love to get some of these to try and adapt here.

I love old cultivated foods, thanks.

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Re: Lost Crops of the Incas

Probably tough outdoors in Ohio. Ideally you want to get the plants to the middle of November without being killed by frost. A low tunnel over the plants in the fall might get you there.

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Re: Lost Crops of the Incas

SO glad MB3 bumped this thread because I missed the gorgeous harvest photo when it was posted in November. :D
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Re: Lost Crops of the Incas

Oof, I missed this thread. It's a good one. :D

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Re: Lost Crops of the Incas

!potatoes! wrote:that's three, bill. :wink:

I'm just about to declare that this isn't the right place for oca. grown it for three or four years, but yield is pretty unimpressive, even when i go to great lengths for both season extension and to convince the plants to start tuberizing early. maybe other varieties than what i have would do better here? i've got a pink variety, the only one i've found available...

mashua, i got some of the ken aslett day-neutral kind a few years ago and they crashed and burned in the summer heat, even though i was at some elevation at the time, on the north side of a mountain...will probably try again at some point.

never found a source for ulluco...UNTIL NOW...

but I'm probably the biggest yacon grower in this region this year - had 260+ plants in the ground, i'll probably be harvesting tons when it's all through. $4/lb sounds nice, jeff, but I'm pretty happy with $2.25/lb, selling wholesale to groceries and restaurants. don't wanna sell 'em one at a time! will undoubtedly be moving into the value-added realm this year too...dehydrated yacon chips and syrup - there's a huge market for the syrup.

i do love those roots & tubers.
Well, at least I am on the right topic now. !potatoes!, I would love to discuss acquiring those yacon tubers to plant in Alabama, which you pm'ed me about. Because I am not allowed to pm you back as a new forum member, could you pm some contact information to me ?

While it is unlikely that I have something exotic enough to interest you in trade, it is yet possible that I might have some seed or plant stock that you might like, or could work out another mode of recompense. My sister lives in Weaverville and is sweet enough that she might pick up and deliver for me.

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Re: Lost Crops of the Incas

I’m coming back to this old thread because I’m starting to think I want to try growing GROUNDNUT, and this thread popped up in the search.

Is anyone growing it? Are you still here, !potatoes! ?
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yes to both! though it's native here, and not one of the inca crops.

groundnut tends to run underground (the main way it spreads) so i grow it exclusively in those big fiber 'smart pots' so i don't have to dig up an ever-widening area for every harvest. i've started replanting the same biggest tubers each year (the largest of which is solidly (american) football shaped and sized at this point. this makes bigger and bigger first-year tubers every year and makes the more widely-used practice of waiting two years between harvests unnecessary. the bigger tubers do make longer vines - i grow them up ~7foot trellises with strings at the top leading up to the eaves of my barn - that only allows ~30feet of growth before they start looping around up there - seems like they'd be to 45feet or so by the end of the season if given the opportunity...normal for smaller tubers is 6-8 feet or so.

the beanlike seeds are also edible (though they usually bloom late enough that they don't mature, so we tend to get one meal with them as green shelling beans a year) - flowering/producing even that much may also be a function of planting big old tubers. i know some of the more modern university of louisiana-bred varieties are known to hardly flower at all, bred as they were for increased tuber size/volume. i did find a wild specimen on a canoe trip last fall that was loaded with beans (and had very small tubers), that i have growing nearby the others this year, that i have some hopes for grown as a perennial bean.

back on topic for this thread, i still grow quite a bit of yacon, too, though I'm growing less this year as i come back from two years of being too busy collecting and processing wild nuts in the fall to harvest the yacon at the right time, which can lead to a lot of losses. trying to be better about it this year.

hope this isn't too many words for your minimal prompt!

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