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My heart aches for those people, but they can't eat my heart and my heart can't shelter them or heal the untreated wounds.

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my nieghbor down the road had a heart attack and died in the early summer,,he raised a bout five calves every year.
he had 10 big bales of mixed hay setting down there,so I asked his buddy who was getting the place ready for to be sold if I could buy all ten bales,,he sold me 8 of the ten bales for ten dollars a piece.
I also bought the big tarps he had covering them.
I took 5 of them and made a dog house out of them for my big dogs till I am ready to use them,,I call it my dog cave and they love it.
I had him put one close to my duck pen to use to soak up the duck doo doo in the pen,,gets pretty nasty in there at times.
it well be next years compost or mulch if it don't break down by next fall.
I have had all my beds covered with it all winter ,,we just had a january thaw,so I put another two and a half foot on top of the 2 1/2 ft. I put on in the fall, under all that mulch is a lot of pigeon chicken and rabbit poo composting for spring.
I worked the manure in pretty deep,maybe a foot.
thats my two cents
Larry

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Wow, this drifted way off the original topic, but I'm really enjoying the hay bale discussion this is turning into. So my solution was to re-name the thread! :wink:

Thanks to folks who responded re: the cornstarch based film mulch. Since I've never been in favor of using plastic film mulch, and the consensus here seems to be to go with more substantial OM mulch, AND since I'm heading for a more sustainable practices anyway, I guess I won't bother to buy any, and work on other ways to warm up the soil. (BTW, did you notice that the clear one is ONLY for use with SWEET corn? I wonder if that has anything to do with the corn based weed killer product...?)

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Not so far off topic in my mind, AS. Mulching is a choice of alternatives and if plastic style sheeting is your choice, then by all means, choose this new stuff. I think exploring alternatives is still germane to the discussion, and hay is certainly a good one... for mulch, human, or canine habitat it appears... :lol:

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sorry to mess up the thread on plastic corn starch mulch,I guess I should have started a new one.
I am really really sorry
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muddy45 wrote:sorry to mess up the thread on plastic corn starch mulch,I guess I should have started a new one.
I am really really sorry
Larry
The only thing you should be sorry about is saying you are sorry. We are all here to learn and teach if that means going a bit off track so be it. :D

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True gixx, true...

We learned a number of things in one thread; think of it as convenient one-stop shopping... :lol:

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Hey (:>) muddy, I didn't mind, and I'm the OP. :wink:
Besides, you weren't the only one, and I would've stepped in and said something if I wanted to yank it back on course. 8)
Post away everyone -- all contributions welcome. I love to watch things grow. :flower:

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Apple,

When I put out floating row covers in the spring the soil under there is always much warmer. Than ambient. I use mid weight fabric.

I have seen very large rolls for farmers. They allow air and water and spores and such to mostly pass, but keep out weed seeds, flying and surface walking pests, those stupid freaking house sparrows that eat your pea shoots. :x

you can keep your plants covered until they pollinate. They grow faster. Much faster. And here's my favorite: you don't need to harden off most starts if you plant under a cover. Sweet, eh?

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toil I guess I can laugh here right ?
this really blew the thread from starch mulch to big bails to row covers. LOL LOL LOL
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applestar wrote:Wow, this drifted way off the original topic, but I'm really enjoying the hay bale discussion this is turning into. So my solution was to re-name the thread! :wink:
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I guess I won't bother to buy any, and work on other ways to warm up the soil.
lol I was just answering... Lol. That is pretty funny.

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Adding to the soil warming thought, adding enough carbon to darken soil helps with heating... perhaps compost?

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