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Jobe's Organic Tree Fertilizer Food Spikes

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:41 pm
by smokensqueal
Are these (Jobe's Organic Tree Fertilizer Food Spikes) worth while. Anybody have any experience using them?

I have two trees that aren't looking so healthy. One I believe is a Pin Oak and the other a white ash. They were planted about 2 years ago and looked fine last year but not so good this year.

I'll also accept other ideas to fertilize these trees along with white pines and a Japanese cherry tree (think that's what it's called).

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:26 pm
by The Helpful Gardener
Hey Smoke,

I don't trust this one yet; "organic based" is wiggle wording and I still can't find the real manufacturer and an MSDS. Still working this and will try to get back to you shortly...

HG

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:32 pm
by The Helpful Gardener
[url=https://www.easygardener.com/pdf/Jobe's_Organic_Tree_MSDS.pdf]Found it[/url]... still no manufacturer (Easy Gardener is a brokerage), hard to track data and, big surprise, ammonium sulfate and potassium chloride, so not really organic either. I'd call this one busted...

And guess what I recommend for fertilizing trees, Smoke? You only get one guess...
:lol:
HG

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:59 am
by smokensqueal
I would have to say compost?

I would agree but I'm fresh out and I have yet to find a good source of it when I don't have enough.

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:32 pm
by The Helpful Gardener
Give the man a see-gar. Right the first time...

Smoke, thought about a little [url=https://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/08/green-basics-vermicompost.php]vermicomposter[/url] for kitchen scraps?

Vermicomposting means never having to say you're out of compost. Even the not-so-green DW loves it...even [url=https://www.earlybirdworms.com/canoworms.htm]a small one[/url]will handle a lot of food; family of four no problem... (P.S., I like coco peat a whole heap too; uses a waste product and NO MINING!) Peat makes a great "brown" for those of us with more greens than browns and stores for ever in the bricks; very handy to have on hand if things get a touch "smelly".

HG

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:53 pm
by gixxerific
smokensqueal wrote:I would have to say compost?

I would agree but I'm fresh out and I have yet to find a good source of it when I don't have enough.
Can't find any huh? https://www.stlcompost.com/ I haven't really checked this site out yet I just bookmarked it today after hearing about in on the radio. Here is another place to look if it would be more convenient. https://www.stpetersmo.net/default.asp?pageID=10286 Not sure where exactly you are I'm in Wentzville about 45 min from downtown St. Louis (meaning the stadium). Any questions PM me I will do my best to help. :)

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:58 pm
by The Helpful Gardener
Nice!

Thanks Gixx!

HG

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:18 am
by smokensqueal
Thanks gixxerific. Unfortunately the closest one on that stlcompost site is about and hour from me. I'm about 35 minutes from the PSB out on interstate 70 on the Illinois side. I know there's also a place in Clinton County that has a fairly nice setup but again a hour drive. I've though about starting up a large setup my self after this last spring search resulted in very little in my area.

HG, I would love to do Vermicomposter but the wife is still getting use to the idea of me composting in the back yard. Not to keen on the whole idea of it being in the house or garage. :cry: On my search for compost I'll also have to look for this coco peat too. This spring I looked for that and came up with a lot of "what's that" or "we have peat moss is that what you want?" It seem my area just isn't into the whole natural or organic type of living yet.

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:31 am
by smokensqueal
Well after a quick google search I did find a place that's closer but still about a 45 min drive. https://ormiorganics.com/products.html

I knew of this place this past spring but they didn't really offer much but now they have a site and seem to be offering a wide variate of things. I may have to drive by and see their products. It might be worth a trip for one big truck load this fall.

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:41 pm
by gixxerific
smokensqueal wrote:Well after a quick google search I did find a place that's closer but still about a 45 min drive. https://ormiorganics.com/products.html

I knew of this place this past spring but they didn't really offer much but now they have a site and seem to be offering a wide variate of things. I may have to drive by and see their products. It might be worth a trip for one big truck load this fall.
Do you have a trailer or maybe a friend with a trailer, than you could get several yards and stockpile. Just an idea. :idea: It would be worth it in the long run. No offense but an hour and a half round trip isn't too much for your garden is it. :) It will gain you great benefits that you could reap for years by building the soil to be a healthy living being.

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:54 pm
by gixxerific
I checked out the ORMI site.

If the MO Botanical Gardens use their products it MUST be good. I have done some restoration work down there and trust they take their gardening VERY seriously.

For those not in the know The Botanical Garden is one of the most renowned gardens in the world. That place kicks butt. They have trees there transplanted from the St. Louis World fair. "150 years and till green" is their motto. https://www.mobot.org/

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:32 am
by The Helpful Gardener
True Gixx; among the prtofessional set, St. Lou ranks with Longwood and Cornell as a source and I think they have been greener than the others for longer. Real good bet that is the best stuff around :D
And Smoke, I get it; THAT'S why I don't have one yet either, but she's really warmed to the outdoor compost for kitchen scraps...
HG

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:19 pm
by smokensqueal
I don't have a truck or trailer. But both my step father and father in law do but they live even further away. I would love to bring a bunch back and stock pile but don't have the room for that and the wife wouldn't let it stand. But being that they do provide it to Missouri Botanical garden and it's the closest one to me I'm going to have to make a trip. I may have to work out a deal with my step father and maybe he can use what I don't.

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:48 pm
by gixxerific
If you didn't live so far away I would bring you some. My truck is a hog. You are probably 1.5-2 hours from me and my truck is very Ungreen! Can you say 11 MPG. :shock: At least my garden and house are Very green.

Good luck with your step father. :D