No response on the link??
Any way, ther was a statement in here, regarding organic methods, and sustainability werenÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t as developed as they are now.
Im going to have to disagree, on organic methods; organic agriculture relies on crop rotation, green manures, compost, and biologic pest control.
All of these methods have been developing for thousands of years, its just ther isnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t too many people funding the science behind it.
It was 10,000 BCE when the first agriculture revolution turned hunter gather to societies of towns and villages, who then gave birth to empires and so forth.
It is said that manure was one of the only common known sources of fertilizer till the 1940Ã¢â‚¬â„¢s. It wasnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t till recently that science finally figured different analysis of types of manures, giving us numbers to work with. Then science has also proved that manure is still the best know fertilizer when they explain that even insects ,worms, bacteria, fungi, soil organisms excretes(pooh) actually feed plants better, increase soil health, and build soil diversity.
Manure(excrete) does the same and contains many soil organism to continue to pooh and feed plants.
Compost is another very old practice in agriculture, developed in the Neolithic revolution, were discarding food refuse in a heap, would result in re growth of seeds discarded in soil.
(read the wiki link on NR)
Following info from
Composting dates to at least the early Roman era since Pliny the Elder (AD 23-79), author, naturalist and natural philosopher refers to compost in his writings.
The Arab Agriculture Revolution, Medieval green revolution or the Muslim agricultural revolution developed advanced crop rotation systems, irrigation techniques, and crops catalogues consisting info of required season, type of land, and amount of water.
During the Muslim Agricultural Revolution 8th-13th centuries, Muslim scientists laid the foundations of agricultural science, which included significant advances in the fields of agronomy, astronomy, botany, earth science, environmental philosophy, and environmental science.
Its believe that compost and manure teaÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s were used in ancient agriculture as well.
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Compost teas and extracts have been used for thousands of years in many ancient agricultural systems, including Mayan, Greek, Egyptian, Roman, and Polynesian. These traditional approaches were primitive in their design. However, the goal was the same -- to provide crops with a highly effective solution containing essential micro-life, organic compounds, and nutrients
Companion planting is also very well documented, on the top of my head is native Americans.
Corn and pole beans were commonly grown together and of course the three sisters.
Biological pest control can date back to ancient Egypt, were simply raising cats killed off rodents
In 1700 parasitoidism insects were observed and documented on its uses when they successfully removed female parasitic eggs out of aphids. & the great Darwin had pointed out the roles parasitics and predators play in regulating insect and pest.
A good read on the history of biological control
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Insect Predation was recognized at an early date, but the significance of entomophagy and exploitation was lost except for a few early human populations in Asia where a sophisticated agriculture had developed. The Chinese citrus growers placed nests of predaceous ants, Oncophylla smaradina, in trees where the ants fed on foliage-feeding insects
And I believe sustainability has been apart of agriculture since it was born, agriculture sustainability IMO is the heart of any civilization. So im pretty sure sustainable agriculture has played a role in farms and crops for some time.
Today there is now abundant scientific evidence that humanity is living unsustainablyÃ¢â‚¬Â¦.Organics can reverse this and again comments stated in the 2000 issue of reason, only slow this process down. Organics wernt even considered, just mentioned once and smashed with nonsense.
All I ask is wereÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s the science, logic, and sources of the many of things said in ther??
Father of the green revolution, overlooked our ancient ancestors teaching listed above. In stead used Monoculture, harsh synthetic fertilizers and chemical pesticides as alternatives.
"If We Can Do It with Science, We Should Do It." If we can do *whatever it is* quicker, with fewer steps, etc., then it's obviously The Best Way.
quote is from member here at THG (if reading im requesting permission to add name)
I understand that at the time, it sounded like a good idea, but NOW many continue to suffer.
Why we continue down this road, is beyond me
our ancestors respected nature and almost every element on this earth. Many respected them so much, they worshiped them, even held sacrifices for them. Im not saying lets go crazy about nature but lets at least consider and reform ther methods of organic gardening. They obviously new a lot of things many seem to overlook.
hereÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s some more links for further reading
I consider my statements as logic and I have given my sources.
Im not trying to demonize any one!!, please donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t mistake my bark as my bite.