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Re: What's the weather like where you are?

rainbowgardener wrote:... All of this is VERY unusual by historical norms ...
I grew up in northern California and southern Oregon, in gardens from my earliest years. My first gardening on my own was on the California coast. I moved here, nearly 50 years ago. Very few growing seasons have been missed, I didn't have gardens mostly because of moving my residence, I believe I can count them on my fingers but all within a 100 mile area, N to S. Some of those seasons were made up for because I worked on farms and at a greenhouse :).

There have been weather ups and downs, certainly. Years ago, the notion of another Ice Age probably got a little more local attention because so much of the geography around here was formed by glaciers. When actual climate change was first talked about in the 1980's, we experienced a "wet" growing season, locally. I remember thinking that, shoot - if this is what we can expect here, it isn't going to be too bad ...

This area has less than 20" of annual precipitation and less than 2" during the 3 months of summer. To have a 3 or 4 rainstorms and a couple inches of water spread over each summer month was great for the gardens!

It didn't last. One of the fairly recent, "wet" growing seasons was characterized not so much by rain but by cool, cloudy weather. The clouds just would not go away! A normal cool start to the season extended an additional month -- it was like trying to garden in alpine conditions.

More recently, the growing season has been characterised by not infrequent record high temperatures. If not quite drought conditions, we have still had very dry weather. I mean dry by not coming close to those 2" of summer rain we used to be able to expect.

Changeable has become the new normal. Outside of a very dry summer 2016, we have had adequate precipitation, including a record-breaker October rainfall! Last winter was warm but rainy and a snowy winter is predicted. Thankfully! We should continue to have an adequate aquifer for summer water. Continuing but no reason to think guaranteed.

We should learn from each other, in our varied gardening environments. These forums make that possible :).

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It is raining again. Curious, on the days I work it is windy but the sun is mostly shining. On the days when I want to work outside it is cloudy and rains all day. Unfortunately, this is normal weather for this time of year. The only abnormal thing is that it is very breezy a couple of months early so the the rain comes in bands. While we haven't had torrential rain or massive flooding the ground is still pretty saturated none the less. The weeds are happy. It is 68 degrees now. I am wearing my "winter clothes", sweat suit and socks. I am using a heating pad for a bed warmer.
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Re: What's the weather like where you are?

I imagine there is this exact aspect map somewhere, but I ended up taking screenshots and overlaying weather maps from two different weather apps in a 3rd drawing app, changing the opacity of the thermal image in the process. Heh, it's cold outside and I had time to play :>
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...interestingly, it turned out that the two maps were not an exact match even when scaled and rotated, though I did try...
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Re: What's the weather like where you are?

Well London has had its 5 or 6 days of frost every morning and day time temperatures around 40F,now we have a couple of days with high 50s ,and miserable low cloud and mists keeping everything damp.
the really chilly spell came with very light winds ,meaning busy london air pollution was unpleasant ,last few days has seen a good breeze which shifts the pollutants,and makes breathing easier.
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It is 68 degrees now with 100% humidity. It has been raining all night and the last time the sun came out was Wednesday. It may clear for a little bit today but more rain is expected for the weekend as well. Not much wind and the rain is coming from the southwest so it is more like cold Kona weather.
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We are taking things by thirds and halves.

At 1/3 of the way through December, we have 1/3 of an inch of precipitation, in the form of snow. We are falling 1/3 short for where things should be for annual precipitation.

In November, there was 2/3 of normal precipitation. The 1 1/2" fell as rain.

The limited recent moisture follows a very dry summer but the greatest amount of October rain of any month in history! This is not the monsoon country of Arizona and New Mexico, 1,000 miles south. The geography is interesting in that part of the world, desert yet cut by water erosion, everywhere you look. Here, 1/2 of the moisture that has fallen in 2016 came in a single month's time and yet we back to being 1/3 short. I am hopeful that we will have more winter snow to maintain soil moisture and give some relief to our higher elevation, evergreen forests.

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It is still cloudy and wet on most days. I finally got out and cut my wet grass and the weed whacker survived. This morning it is 64 degrees and forcast to get a little colder down to 62 degrees as the cold front passes over the next few days.
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Currently, it's deceptively sunny -- temperature outside is 21°F. It seems unreal but I know its even colder in the central parts of the US and north. :shock:

We had a bit of snow on the ground this morning -- mostly still unmelted, and the winds are roaring -- small wonder considering the significant drop in temp. And the muddy ground wasn't entirely frozen yesterday -- stiff but still sank down under my weight, so the thermal differential must be playing havoc.
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It is hard for me to imagine 21degrees and sunny. I am really cold at around 64 degrees. It will get up close to 80 but I will be inside at work for most of the day. It is still overcast with very little blue sky showing. More rain is coming. I got out to water the yard (well mostly trying to avoid watering the weeds), and I got 10 snails. I need to throw out more slug bait. The rats are eating the slug bait. I picked up a box yesterday and it started coming out of the bottom of the unopened box faster than I could contain it. Slug bait is expensive and it does not kill rats.
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Today it was in the low 20s and VERY windy, and getting into the low teens tonight. That is why I harvested all the rest of my greens, and covered my rosemary in a hoop house, with a heater in it.
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Re: What's the weather like where you are?

Good call, that. Yeah no greens would have survived unheated, even under hoops. Nearest weather station is reporting 14°F right now....

If it would stay cold, we could have snow with 100% precipitation Forecast for Sat and Sun, but aside from possible 22°F tonight (so just a bit of flurries), temps are rising with highs are 45°F on Sat and 62°F !!! :shock: !!! On Sunday.

...lets compare daylight hours again... :D
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Sunrise will be after 7:30am, sunset before 4pm ... aaaahhh!

Ever the "morning person," I was up at 3:30 and the temperatures nearby were above 10°f. Freezing fog was blanketing my neighborhood. The airport was reporting below zero before the fog settled in. I thought that was likely to be our official low for the day.

It's still over 2 hours before sunrise and all three of the nearest Weather Underground thermometers say 2°. I suppose I could try to see ... okay! Stepping out on the deck. Tttthe fffog lifted! Ccccold out there.

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Our weather has been crazy. About 10 days ago we got a cool/cold snap and had to run the heat to keep things comfortable in the house. Since Christmas I've had to run the A/C to do the same. The temperatures outside are not bad being in the mid 70's, but the humidity is crazy and inside feels so muggy that it is uncomfortable. The extended forecast shows much of the same for the next 10 days with only a couple days of cooler weather thrown in to keep the utility company happy.

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We had a cold snap also mid-Decemberish with night time lows down in the mid-20's, about as cold as it ever gets here, and then a big warm up.

We went back to Cincinnati for Christmas with friends. The day after Christmas, yesterday, was 66 degrees there, which was a new record for the date, surpassing the previous record for the date which was just set this time last year! Warming, anybody?
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Re: What's the weather like where you are?

rainbowgardener wrote:We had a cold snap also mid-Decemberish with night time lows down in the mid-20's, about as cold as it ever gets here, and then a big warm up.

We went back to Cincinnati for Christmas with friends. The day after Christmas, yesterday, was 66 degrees there, which was a new record for the date, surpassing the previous record for the date which was just set this time last year! Warming, anybody?
As a grower of vegetables, my biggest concern with having mild winters is the uptick in the bug population when spring and summer get here. I've noticed when we have mild winters, the garden pests seem to come out earlier and with a vengeance when spring arrives as many of them overwinter just like some of my plants.



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