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So, those are 9PM EST conditions?

I'm over there above the 22°. It is a little warmer at the moment but, in the twenties and maybe dropping out of them by morning. There is about a foot of snow on the ground, locally.

It was 33° in Montana?!! I had to search ... Kalispell and Missoula are currently in the teens. Great Falls! Wow! At 29°F, Great Falls was warmer than the afternoon highs around here! Who would have thunk?!!

There is about 12" of snow on the ground. The NationalWS had expected clear skies and colder ... but, it looks like we will get a little more snow :).

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It was actually hot today.... 76 degrees! And all the spring bulbs I planted about six weeks ago are sprouting. Some of the flowering trees in the neighborhood are blooming...

Weather is too weird and all the plants are confused.

25 degrees above normal is kind of fun (in a strange way) in December. Not looking forward to it in July!!
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digitS' wrote:So, those are 9PM EST conditions?

I'm over there above the 22°. It is a little warmer at the moment but, in the twenties and maybe dropping out of them by morning. There is about a foot of snow on the ground, locally.

It was 33° in Montana?!! I had to search ... Kalispell and Missoula are currently in the teens. Great Falls! Wow! At 29°F, Great Falls was warmer than the afternoon highs around here! Who would have thunk?!!

There is about 12" of snow on the ground. The NationalWS had expected clear skies and colder ... but, it looks like we will get a little more snow :).

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Yep. Screenshot was taken just before posting, give or take, and posted time stamp was 9:02PM. crazy

...yes rainbowgardener -- hopefully this won't mess up the fruit and nut trees too much, and also, I hope there won't be a repeat of massive honeybee die off from them not fully hibernating and running out of stored honey due to unusually warm winter. I remember an article that spring mentioning that 1/3 of NJ's honeybee hives were lost because the bees ran out of food midway through the winter. I hope beekeepers will remember from that experience and will put appropriate supplemental food in for them to tide them over.

Are the meteorologists saying it's going to be equality warmer next summer? Unless we have the usual deep freeze, we are likely to end up with pests that are normally killed off next summer like the last time.

(Haha is it contradictory to hope some insects will survive the abnormal weather patterns while wishing some others will not? :hehe: )
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Are the meteorologists saying it's going to be equality warmer next summer?

Well, 2013 was the second hottest year on record (global mean temp for the year) (behind 2010). 2014 was the new hottest year on record and then 2015 significantly topped that. The very strong El Nino pattern we are in is set to continue through much of the year in 2016. This is being driven by very warm ocean temperatures.
Models and expert opinion suggest that surface water temperatures in the east-central tropical Pacific Ocean [the key Niño 3.4 region] are likely to exceed 2° Celsius above average.” And that would make this El Niño the strongest event since the super El Niño of 1997-1998. .... Right now, though, it looks like we will be setting 12-month temperature records through spring 2016 — and that summer 2016 could be hotter than this summer, which was pretty darn hot worldwide
https://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/0 ... 16-hotter/

This was June through Aug mean temps 2015:

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The redder, the farther above the local historical average temps, white is average, blue is below average.
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Well, maybe it would be a good idea for me to move to southern Australia!

I suppose their cooler than normal temperatures were accompanied by limited sunlight and miserable plant growth ... I can see that the whole of South America is out of the question :shock: !

Normalcy is what the natives want, plant and animal. Honey bees aren't natives but part of our agricultural community of partners. Don't fret, AppleStar. Maybe your plant pests will starve ... It's okay if we pick winners and losers but we had better stay on our toes ... adjust and adapt. I wonder what grasshoppers taste like.

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We may all have to adapt in the long run and change our way of planting; watering; modifying the environment (shading) and even select different plants that can tolerate more heat and drought.
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More heat for sure. Dry areas are likely to get drier, but some wet areas are getting wetter as everything gets more extreme. The area I am in much of the town looks like swamp right now. Chattanooga normally gets 52" of rain a year, which seems like plenty.

This year we have had 66.7 inches! Five and a half FEET of rain! More than 14" more rain than usual. (Not a record though, the record rainfall for a year was 73" in 1994).
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Plenty?!

For a few years, I lived far up on the northern California coast with those kind of rainfall numbers. Mold grew on the interior of north walls and in our closets. I had chronic bronchitis and not enough sense to quit smoking ... until a future DW made it a priority ...

Rainbow', you confuse me! What is "moved to GA zone 7b?" Chattanooga is in TN altho I've never been to see. I've been in GA and didn't find it there.

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Yes, it is a bit confusing. I live in a suburb (more like exurb really) of Chattanooga TN that happens to be just across the border in GA. My address is in GA, but the closest town to me is in TN. The TN border is two miles from me by road, less if you could go as the crow flies.
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I should have looked at a map!

As someone on a border, I also should have guessed. Your location sounds like my big veggie garden. It's 2 miles from the ID/WA border. I have had gardens on both sides of the border. I've lived on both sides. Of course, the Idaho panhandle is narrow. One is either close to Washington or Montana.

My experiences in Georgia are near the Atlantic. There is another problem, I'm not thinking how large the state is.

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Yes, the GA coastline runs from Savannah almost to Jacksonville (FL) and is the very SE of the state. I am in the far NW of the state, as far as you can get from there and still be in GA. 463 mi from Jacksonville to Chattanooga.
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That is a big area. Living on an island it is hard to fathom those kinds of distances. It takes two days to go around the Big Island but that is more because of the road conditions than anything else.

Oahu is a smaller island. It takes about 6 hours to go around the Island on Kam Hwy (The road changes its name a couple of times in sections but it is still the same road). about an hour to one and a half hours if you speed on the H1 to go from Waianae to Hawaii Kai. Oahu is 44 miles long, 30 miles wide, 112 miles around and is the third-largest island in the Hawaiian chain of 132 islets. Of course, in rush hour traffic and when the zipper mobile breaksdown that commute from Hawaii Kai ti Waianae has taken more than 8 hours.

Right now it is around 65 degrees. I think it got down to about 63 last night. A couple of degrees cooler than it has been. It is still mostly cloudy with a few breaks for the sun to come through but still raining almost every day. Our coldest days don't come till January. It should be interesting how cold or warm it will get with the extended El Nino. The days are around 76 degrees. While that is hot for you Apple it is comfortable for me.
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It is 68 degrees now. We have a break in the weather. It should be nice and sunny for a week with the lows around 62 degrees and the highs around 78. I may even have to water my yard this week.
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It's cold again where I'm at, with lows in the 20's and 30's at night. My water pipes tend to freeze when it gets cold like this, and once again the air is getting smokey from people stoking up their woodstoves. WSU Research and Extension burns to keep their greenhouses warm. They have a number of buildings with old smoke stacks. The numerous smoke stacks create a large cloud of smoke over the property. I wonder how they get away with it. The air quality agency has new regulations that restrict burning in uncertified stoves. Some people do it anyway, of course. Perhaps the state greenhouses are exempt. I'm sure with so many smoke stacks to upgrade that it would be expensive to do so.
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A huge weather system is bridging U.S.A. To Europe across the Atlantic Ocean this morning :shock:

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Wow that's amazing! Looks like it starts out in Texas.

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It is 59 degrees now and it only got to 74 degrees yesterday although it was sunny all day. The cloud cover is thick but more rain is not expected until tomorrow. The NOAA map looks like California is seeing more rain too.

Big surf has arrived up to 24 ft.
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It has been really cold where I am. A whole week of freezing temps. The air is stagnant and there is a burn ban. Some people are burning anyway, most are rentals. Some landlords are slumlords and don't keep up the maintainance like they should. I'm sure that some of those rentals don't have adequate insulation, so they are desperate to keep warm in this weather.
I was trying to look up the atlantic weather phenomena and read that a parade of storms is headed for the west coast. A whole parade of them. When I looked at the map, it looks like they are coming from Hawaii. I wonder if 'imafan26' is sending the storms.
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When I looked at the map, it looks like they are coming from Hawaii. I wonder if 'imafan26' is sending the storms.
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Weather update for my area. It's currently snowing. I think it must be some Canadian influence this time. North winds always mean cold weather here. I hope that it warms up and that the snow melts, or that I get snowed in. One or the other, no in-between.
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Well actually, I might be. The storms bands go past us to the south and turn just past Kauai and head over us. The rain flows in on the prevailing winds which have been switching around more than usual. If the moisture mass is large enough it circles the gyre and ends up near Alaska.

The hurricane season for the worst storms are past I hope, but we are still getting rain almost every week with just a few days of sun in between. When the cold front comes then it feels to me like I am in Alaska. It is strange because some days are the usual 62 degreees and then there will be a night in the 50's all of a sudden. It is still cool now at 72 degrees at 12:30 and the winds are very light. The palm leaves are barely moving.

I just finished cleaning the house. It is going to take a long time for the floors and clothes to dry.

I am going to try to fill a few bags of weeds before the end of the day.

I divided and planted out a pot of cilantro from Walmart this morning. I think I got 19 plants from the one pot. It is actually one of the few things that makes sense to buy starts instead of seeds. The seeds would have cost as much as the starts. They are not the easiest things to transplant so I may lose a few.
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A touch of winter this week. Highs have been in the upper 40's-low 50's. Tonight will be our first close to freezing night. Daytime highs in upper 50's. Our winter is usually over by mid-February.
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I've just been for a walk in the winter sunshine and thought I'd better get my "observations" in here because I think there should be some posts, soon!

Our snow is melting and the Big Deal is that the ice finally seems to be gone out of the house gutters! I think it is likely that the ice dams on the roof will go very soon :).

The temperatures are supposed to rise into the 40's during the next few afternoons with no freezing overnight!

I don't think it's gonna get crazy because the chance of rain isn't real high and predictions are 1/10th of an inch, or so. It also looks like there will only be brief rain then snow again and only one night above freezing in the higher river valleys of Idaho & western Montana (2500'). Fortunately!! We don't need our mountain snow to rush out of here in January!

Now, I imagine that there should be reports of more wintry weather, elsewhere ;).

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The extreme weather has subsided here. It's raining. Lots of rain. The weather seams to have normalized. I like the rain.
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It is 68 degrees right now. It was overcast and cool most of the day with breezes that made it seem even cooler. Last night it was again close to 59 degrees. January is our coldest month of the year. I know it isn't cold for most of you.

It is just a little crazy El Nino weather. One day it is warm and breezeless with volcanic haze and the next it feels like a cold front coming through. I was wet outside when I got up and it sprinkled a light rain. The clouds have been threatening but so far are not moving and not dropping. I haven't watered my yard because I have been out all day and because it was so overcast the media was actually still damp. Hopefully, I will not find limp cabbage tomorrow. I am counting on a few more sprinkles tonight.
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The rain is coming down and we have flood advisories again. Sometimes I think back to the good old days, before we had such detailed weather advisories. Sometimes today's weather advisories sound so ominous. The advisory for tonight sounds as if I need to build an ark in order to get home safely.
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We have a blizzard warning in effect from Fri night to Sun morning. In reality, our particular area is not usually affected as severely as areas west and north of Philadelphia, but we are all part of the same general area news reporting stations.

DH stopped at the grocery store on his way home, and he said most of the store shelves were already emptied out by the shoppers getting ready to hunker down and weather the storm. He was shaking his head, mostly put out that all the Nutella was gone. :lol:
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yep. we started getting the beginning of that overnight here. the grocery stores were a little nuts yesterday. snowing pretty steadily now. hoping i can pull off an entire old-fashioned snow day.

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We will get very little of the "epic blizzard" here in Chattanooga, a lot of rain today and then a cold snap, going down to 21 deg tomorrow night, which is cold for here (I know, don't laugh, it is why I am here!).

But unfortunately we will be driving back to Cincinnati TODAY! We are putting on a fund-raiser dinner and concert in Cincinnati tomorrow, to help me raise money for my Peacemaker Teams Delegation trip to US Mexico Borderlands trip in Feb.* This has been planned for a month and can't be rearranged. The weather in Cincinnati will be wintery, but not extreme, windy with about one inch of snow expected.

But we will be driving through Lexington, KY and sounds like it may be pretty fierce there-- winds up to 30 mph, chance of snow 100%, 5-8 inches predicted.

I managed to pick the worst weekend of the year to do this! Sigh....


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It does seem like we have to pick the worse time to travel. But how exciting to be going on a trip. You will be in my thoughts.

I do find the whole grocery store thing sort of unbelievable. But I see pictures so it must be true or the stories where people have food stocked up for two days and think that is good. I clearly am out of touch with the world.

Like right now I am going through my pantry and if I have less than 2 years of garden produce canned, then I need to be planting more of that this year in my garden. I make sure I have enough for an extra year encase this summer a vegetable doesn't produce like it should. The same goes for anything else on the farm.


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RainbowGardener, I hope you are leaving yourself lots of extra travel time and arrive at your destination and back home safely.

In this corner of the US, I have just checked the Cascade Mountain pass reports. It looks like the State Transportation people are doing a good job. I know there are avalanche concerns and the precipitation is currently a mix of snow and rain, right at freezing. We don't want this snow to go away quickly and we don't want to jinx the fact that it's here and more coming. The relief from drought conditions look real, https://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/snow/snow_map.html .

DW has a special interest in fresh produce (me too :)) so we make trips through the produce aisles about once a week. The vegetables carried from afar, or out of storage, usually ends up in noodles or on rice. There is also a freezer, well-stocked by the end of each growing season. Even with "warmer" conditions right now, it would not be difficult to keep things in there frozen.

All those noodles and rice, I don't know how many weeks we could go without the need to restock -- many. A little oil, a sprinkle of this or that - many, many meals right here at home.

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I hope everyone is safe on the east coast. It sounds like it is going to be a little uncomfortable for awhile.
I am always stocked up, my family says they can always shop at my house. I bought some bottled water for the hurricane season and canned goods. It will take me a while to drink the water ( I only bought three cases, I just don't like water, and I have been eating the canned beans and pasta. I went shopping Wednesday at Costco and yesterday at the local market (Well, it is not so local. It is 'far' by some people's reckoning since it is 4 miles away.) I got some meat, onions, banana (3), soda,carrots, cat food, dried noodles,canned beans, spices, and bread. I haven't opened up my jar of nutella yet, so I did not need more and I buy garlic at Costco so that lasts a few months. I have about 50lbs of rice so I should be good for awhile even if I have to refill the rice bin. I have green beans, grape tomatoes, komatsuna, cutting celery, and mizuna in the garden so I have a enough for a makeshift stir fry. My freezers are packed. I made a small hole but after putting the meat in the freezer they are full again. Oh yeah, I have 3 containers of salt and a six month supply of toilet paper and paper towels, and more than 10 years supply of chopsticks.
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We're in the thick of it. Sub freezing (upper 20's) since yesterday, lots of gusts and drifting. My rabbit fences around garden beds are starting to disappear, and almost can't tell where the pond edges are now. Overnight, the snow drifted past roofed front porch against the front storm door about 8" above the sill and 1-1/2 ft high on the porch at highest. Supposed to snow until midnight....

...plenty of food etc. In the house, though not systematically stocked like some of you...
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I had to look up "lake effect snow" because I had never heard of it before. Such an interesting weather phenomena. I bet the Great Lakes region gets a good dose that. I wonder if this happens around rivers too.
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It's over!, and the sun is shining brightly. Wound up with a total of twenty inches. Thank the gods we never lost power like many on the island did. Now it's clean up time, which I figure will take roughly 3 hours. Hope everyone else who were in the path of this monster fared as well as we did.

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Before and After photos.... :o
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Knee high fences are now buried and useless. If the snow crusts over the rabbit fences will be no more than about 6 inch high borders and 4 ft high fence surrounding the garden area will be the knee high fences. The white picket fence is *supposed to be* 5 ft high.


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all the backyard snow was blown/drifted onto the patio and against the back door. If I let THAT freeze, there'll be no getting out.... :shock:

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applestar wrote:Before and After photos.... :o
Well that blanket of snow and ice should take care of many future garden pests for you. Seems to me there just has to be a lot of good to have the garden blanketed like that.

Here in central Alabama we had WIND WIND and more wind. I was able to hobble to the greenhouse to hang out yesterday. Was nice, and the greenhouse faces south for the sun and has a larger building on the north to fend off the wind.

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O M G. We were trying to drive to Cincinnati Friday. We got just North of London KY (not too far past the KY border) and got stuck in a big line of traffic going nowhere. It turns out that a 31 mile stretch of I-75 was closed down. We were amongst thousands of people stranded out there. We got stuck about 2:15 in the afternoon. Did not get under way again until 7:45 the next morning, 17.5 hours later! More than 17 hours sitting in the car in 25 degree weather! We would turn the engine on to warm the car up and then turn it off to conserve fuel--off and on in 15 minute cycles all night. Thankfully we had some food and we brought blankets and we had just filled the tank slightly before we hit the stop. Without all that , the situation would have been more dire. We didn't have water. We brought in cups of snow and ate it like ice chips, but by the end we were pretty dehydrated. But we made it and are fine!
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I was so worried for you, rainbowgardener. I'm glad you and J made it through.
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Wow RG, that sounds like an adventure. Glad you made it through OK.
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