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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:45 pm
by stella1751
tedln wrote: Was it George Orwell or Ayn Rand who first wrote about the evils of "Group Think"?

Ted
Wow. I had to look this one up. That is a fascinating concept, one I've never heard of, one I'd like to learn more about.

From [url=https://www.psysr.org/about/pubs_resources/groupthink%20overview.htm]What Is Groupthink[/url]
Groupthink, a term coined by social psychologist Irving Janis (1972), occurs when a group makes faulty decisions because group pressures lead to a deterioration of “mental efficiency, reality testing, and moral judgmentâ€

Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 4:38 pm
by TheWaterbug
stella1751 wrote:I need to be educated to what Monsanto has done. I've never studied its methods. Although I feel guilty buying my bag of MG each year (I'll be purchasing the 2011 bag on Monday), I'm not sure why I feel guilty.
As a forum n00b I'm a bit frightened to post this :D, but since the debate's already raging, I'll go ahead.

PSA: Miracle Gro Garden Soil for Flowers and Vegetables is on special at Home Depot for [url=https://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100355778/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053]$4.77 per 2 cf bag.[/url] That's less than the standard price for the 1 cf bag. The 2 cf bag is normally $7.77.

Anyway I just went out and bought a few bags. I won't tell anyone how many :D. I'm going to go hide from the torches and pitchforks now.

Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 5:35 pm
by DoubleDogFarm
stella1751 wrote:
I need to be educated to what Monsanto has done. I've never studied its methods. Although I feel guilty buying my bag of MG each year (I'll be purchasing the 2011 bag on Monday), I'm not sure why I feel guilty.

As a forum n00b I'm a bit frightened to post this , but since the debate's already raging, I'll go ahead.

PSA: Miracle Gro Garden Soil for Flowers and Vegetables is on special at Home Depot for $4.77 per 2 cf bag. That's less than the standard price for the 1 cf bag. The 2 cf bag is normally $7.77.

Anyway I just went out and bought a few bags. I won't tell anyone how many . I'm going to go hide from the torches and pitchforks now.
I'm at the point that I don't even care. Poly thinking, Mono thinking. In the end this is only a gardening forum.

WTF Eric

Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 7:07 pm
by tedln
Good point Eric!

It is a gardening forum and the part I enjoy is when we are discussing gardening.

While I agree that most large corporations will lie, steal, and cheat to make a profit, the opposite side will lie, steal, and cheat to make their point. I was once called a cynic on this forum. It didn't bother me because I considered it a compliment. After thinking about it, I realized I am not a cynic, I am a skeptic. It is fairly easy to recognize when a company is selling an inferior product, but it is less easy to recognize the doctored data and studies from the other side for what it is. I read many "educated opinions" on this forum. When I apply my filter of skepticism, I can usually determine fact from fiction. The sad part is the fact that the Corporations see no moral dichotomy in their efforts to maximize profits and the opposite side totally believes their not so factual data and studies. The average person is caught in the middle not knowing what to believe.

How is your garden growing?

Ted