curious about rock plantings

[artisanoo]

hey, I was just wondering - when you plant a tree onto a large rock (like a landscape scene that you want to resemble a mountain or somesuch), how is drainage taken care of? do they drill holes in the stone to the bottom? or is the rock carved with some kind of channel that drains down?

I always wondered about that

Gabe

[ynot]

how is drainage taken care of? do they drill holes in the stone to the bottom? or is the rock carved with some kind of channel that drains down?

I always wondered about that

Gabe

Welcome Gabe,

Sometimes... There is a lot of hidden work done to accommodate the drainage requirements of complex plantings, Including the things you mention.

Sometimes though....Water just runs downhill; [Even on a bonsai sized mountain] .

ynot

[artisanoo]

thanks - I figured there had to be more than just slapping a tree on a big rock and calling it a day...

I am not anywhere near the level of knowledge that would be that possible, but one day I do want to attempt that - with something maybe a little forgiving and "root-happy" - like another Hawaiian umbrella or ficus.

[arboricola]

Gabe;

Is this what you were curious about or did you have a bigger mountain in mind..

[img]https://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e188/coloradus/root-1.jpg[/img]

Phil...

[artisanoo]

bigger. I am thinking more about where the height of the rock makes it look more like a small mountain, as opposed to a boulder.

[arboricola]

A work of art


[img]https://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e188/coloradus/20050222055433foto02.jpg[/img]

[artisanoo]

A work of art


[img]https://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e188/coloradus/20050222055433foto02.jpg[/img]

thats more like what I'm asking about

anyone know anything about how they do that?

[ynot]

thats more like what I'm asking about

anyone know anything about how they do that?

Time & inspiration.....

You may want to google 'Penjing' [Or creating Penjing], You will find heaps of info on the History & Aesthetics [& a bit on the process involved.]

The work of Qingquan Zhao may also interest you - Here is an example:

[img]https://img329.imageshack.us/img329/5717/chineseelm2qingquanzhaoce9.jpg[/img]



ynot

[alexinoklahoma]

It can also be referred to as a slab-planting. There's usually all kinds of 'supports' under what you see above-soil. Things like rocks to make it stable and less-erodable, and unseen 'dams' and bumps/ridges (think friction-device) that keep water from letting stuff 'slip' down a slope, etc. Not real hard, but attn to detail is paramount to pull 'em off with illusory-success.

Neat stuff, no?

Alex

[artisanoo]

wow - both of those are freakin awesome - I wish I knew enough to grow trees like that

[alexinoklahoma]

I wish I knew enough to grow trees like that

You *do* know enough It is simply the very-focussed application of what we're usually saying all the time around here. Learn the species and their needs, avoid soggy soil, and take care with how you treat the tree(s). They will reward you for every moment you spend upon them. Those type things are all easy, but require intense scrutiny with each and every action upon each tree All it is is pinching, planting, protecting and practicin' what is preached. Right?

Do not fear trying it out - you *can* do it If mistakes are made, you will benefit from them and then get it right the next time. I have killed plenty of trees in my time from ignorance and such, and so will you most likely. Just try *not* to, and eventually it all works out for ya...

Alex