Does the Bonsai Soil Normally Grow Moss?

[Fluffy]

I seem to find alot of people seem to use a 60-40 mix of a few things, that is what I found a few times.

Some of the soil pics you guys have posted show what appear to be bark and small stones, but on closer inpestion look like the japanese soil sometimes used.

Here is a better picture of one of my leaves and it is not the tree I thought it was.

[img]https://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/ep_fluffy/DSCF0636.jpg[/img]

Not the spikey like parts that come from the serated edges, diffinatly not and chinese elm, the leave are shiny and the vein of the leaf it curved and they are very shiny, hopefully this might one of you guys to possibly know what type it is.

I am greateful for you help.

[ynot]

I seem to find alot of people seem to use a 60-40 mix of a few things, that is what I found a few times.

Sorry? This ratio tells nothing of which is the organic or inorganic [the 60 or the 40? Some species are a bit picky about this due to the water retention properties of the organic components.] You will run across any number of ratios for soil as everyone has what works for them {as I mention in the soil sticky this is due to the number of variables in any set of circumstances. No one else has an environment just like you.}

Again, It is about how the soil functions as a whole - The components mix is just how you get something that works for your particular set. I myself have a fair portion of my trees in 100% inorganic but some are70/30 IO/O

There is a broad range of what is survivable but to get the best growth from your mix often takes some observation and tweaking.

Some of the soil pics you guys have posted show what appear to be bark and small stones, but on closer inpestion look like the japanese soil sometimes used.

That is essentially what the Japanese soil is [Some has no bark at all & It's fired clay though - Not small stones]... Both descriptions in the quote above [On either side of the comma] describe the same thing

This is exactly what I referred when I said:

Rather than listing the specific ingredients, [Which may or may not be available to all parties & there are many different things that will function in similar ways.] It is more important to understand the importance of the particle size and how the ratio of inorganic to organic components affect how your soil functions wrt moisture retention, Aeration, Drainage, And the structure of the root growth.

The similarity you note above is intentional. The soil you see in the pictures functions the same as the Japanese soil even if the ingredients are not precisely the same....The specific materials make no difference because they get the job done in the same manner.

This is why I am constantly telling people to learn to understand the aspects of bonsai soil that are beneficial to the tree and how to achieve that [Yes I will say it again: Functionality] as opposed to simply buying the bag with the right name on it and saying this must be good because it says 'bonsai soil' on it. We see terrible soil with a pretty label all the time.

Here is a better picture of one of my leaves and it is not the tree I thought it was.

Not the spikey like parts that come from the serated edges, diffinatly not and chinese elm, the leave are shiny and the vein of the leaf it curved and they are very shiny, hopefully this might one of you guys to possibly know what type it is.

I am honestly still at a loss for a species for you... Great picture though!

I am greateful for you help.

Your welcome.

ynot

[Fluffy]

I think it is going to be a problem as I still cannot find a bonsai tree like it anywhere I have been searching alot and doesnt look like it is anywhere lol.

https://www.thebonsaistore.co.uk/inc/sdetail/2072

This is the main soil that I can see that most people seem to use.

This one doesnt sound to bad but it the whole whats in it
https://www.thebonsaistore.co.uk/inc/sdetail/2073

[ynot]

https://www.thebonsaistore.co.uk/inc/sdetail/2072

This is the main soil that I can see that most people seem to use.

This one doesnt sound to bad but it the whole whats in it
https://www.thebonsaistore.co.uk/inc/sdetail/2073

Do you mean in the UK? [or on site].
Beats me how you can tell anything at all about the soil from the pictures I see in those links..?
I find it really hard to feel I have an informed opinion about something I am only seeing the packaging for. It gives no info on the contents either.

Having only barely heard of this I can tell you I personally am not using it, Just because it is visually similar does not mean it is the same name brand product at all.
A quick google shows that some folks do use it neat, It is not a common product here as of yet [In fact it's barely known here as it is commonly marketed in the uk - Not the usa] so I don't have any experience with it.
From what I am seeing on google it is obviously similar to akadama.

Species ID: Any chance the retailer might know? or perhaps their vendor.

Ynot

[Fluffy]

The same website has the akadama soil, https://www.thebonsaistore.co.uk/inc/sdetail/134

Does anyone here have any more knowledge on the kadama soil being used need or mixed?

I have also contacted the place I bought it from to see if they can give me some info, they do have small chinese elms there but they didnt look that good.

Here is another site with some picture of the different soils,
https://www.greendragonbonsai.co.uk/BONSAI_SOIL_AT_GREEN_DRAGON_BONSAI.htm


I believe at last I have a match look at the pics,
[img]https://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/ep_fluffy/DSCF0636.jpg[/img]
[img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Sageretia_theezans.jpg/800px-Sageretia_theezans.jpg[/img]
If you guys thing these look very similar and my does have the dark coloured spine like pertrutions from the leaves so I believe that it is a Sageretia or (Sageretia Theezans)

[Gnome]

Fluffy,

Congratulations on the ID, I looked through my books but could not locate it using the picture of the leaf. I think there is an excellent chance that you are correct. I will try to remember this for future reference, thanks.

[url]https://www.bonsai4me.com/SpeciesGuide/Sageretia.html[/url]

Most tropicals are potted with at least some percentage of organic components so Akadama straight may not be appropriate for this species. I don't use it at all due the fact that it is imported and I have other inorganic components available locally.

Norm