Does the Bonsai Soil Normally Grow Moss?

[Fluffy]

Does the soil in the pot normally grow some type of moss on it, as it look like mine is i was just wondering.

I love my little bonsai, and i don't want it to die so i want to make sure it is ok.



Apart from the leaf litter which got cleaned up is the greeny stuff on the soil which i think is moss supposed to be there or is it natural?

[Gnome]

Fluffy,

No the moss is not a good sign. I don't think that it actually represents a threat to your tree but rather consider it an indicator that the soil is being kept too moist. With soil like that you will find it difficult to maintain a consistent level of moisture.

Peat based soils are notorious for remaining wet too long and then being difficult to re-wet once dry. The soil should be changed but there are other issues. We have not yet determined the species of this tree, this is important because timing can really be important.

Furthermore there is little point in re-potting until you have acquired or made some decent bonsai soil. I'll have a look through my books and see if I can find anything as far as an ID goes.

Norm

[tommywing]

I'm guessing by the pot that you got that in homebase?

I have two trees from there and all the info I've got from this site tells me that the soil they sell the trees in is rubbish, you'll probably have to repot your tree in spring, if you really love it!

That's what I'm going to do anyway!

[PhilC]

Tommy, those pots with that soil can be bought from many places, not just B & Q.

Here is my Fukien Tea, similar pot, same Chinese soil:

http://www.helpfulgardener.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5293

[tommywing]

I see, I guess it's still no the best soil though. I'm convinced thats the cause of most of my problems!

[Fluffy]

B&Q do sell a bonsai soil would that be any good?

http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav/nav.j ... earch=true

[ynot]

:shock: :evil: = Side scrolling

B&Q do sell a bonsai soil would that be any good?

Lets review:

Gnome said:

Peat based soils are notorious for remaining wet too long and then being difficult to re-wet once dry.

Which is absolutely correct in both my opinion and experience.

Your next post is of this 'soil', This is the description included in your link:

Product Description:
B&Q Bonsai Compost is a potting formulation combining well composted bark, top quality Irish peat and other ingredients such as perlite and grit to provide enhanced root development.

B&Q do sell a bonsai soil would that be any good?

The answer is 'NO', It answers itself.

ynot

[Fluffy]

Is there any good bonsai composts on sale?

[ynot]

Is there any good bonsai composts on sale?

Where?

I am in a different country than you and I make my own soil so I really have no way to answer that.

But I would imagine so - Google it, Or find a local bonsai club to ask about sourcing some soil [They may even sell it].

ynot

[Fluffy]

What do you make your own from and how long does it take?

[ynot]

What do you make your own from

Have you read the soil sticky? Including the links within it? If not please do.
http://www.helpfulgardener.com/forum/v ... php?t=3422
Please read this as well:
http://www.bonsai4me.com/Basics/Basics_Soils.html

A simple question with a complex answer:

Components vary widely due to location [IE: I have no idea where Gillingham is so I cannot say that my available materials are the same as yours.]

Rather than listing the specific ingredients, [Which may or may not be available to all parties & there are many different things that will function in similar ways.] It is more important to understand the importance of the particle size and how the ratio of inorganic to organic components affect how your soil functions wrt moisture retention, Aeration, Drainage, And the structure of the root growth.

Please review the stickys at the top of the forum as well as the link above to get a general overview and then we can address any specific questions you may have.

and how long does it take?

Well...Just like anything else, It depends on how much you are making at once.

I am not sure exactly how to address this question because it's not a long complex physical process or anything. It's just mixing the components together.

When you review the soil sticky please take note of the pictures as I suspect your visual impression of 'bonsai soil' may resemble 'garden soil' or 'potting soil' and you will see that this is not what we refer to at all.

The suggested reading will hep you to understand the reasons for the differences.

ynot

[Fluffy]

I bought more soil just to keep the roots well covered it is wrong type as ynot said but i cannot repot as it will die, so i am going to watch the bonsai very carefully.

I believe my tree to be a Ligustrum Sinensis as the leafs look very similar! When i find my camera will post the comparison.

[ynot]

I bought more soil just to keep the roots well covered it is wrong type as ynot said but I cannot repot as it will die, so I am going to watch the bonsai very carefully.

I might be missing something but judging from the pictures so far I cannot discern exactly what you were trying to fix.
Please explain the root issue you refer to in more detail.

I think it is entirely possible and likely that the addition of this inappropriate soil is only going to complicate matters further as opposed to helping you in any way.

I believe my tree to be a Ligustrum Sinensis as the leafs look very similar! When I find my camera will post the comparison.

Please do

ynot

[Fluffy]

Well there are patches where the roots show through the soil i thought they needed to be covered?

Not to sure though still have to look for my camera.

[ynot]

Well there are patches where the roots show through the soil I thought they needed to be covered?

[Other than issue of changing the soil itself]...

I don't see any 'roots that need to be covered' in the picture in the original post in this thread, Is the problem you refer to visible in that picture?

Any thoughts on the soil issue after reading up a bit on it?

ynot