Japanese Red Maple
I would like to try growing a red maple.I have been looking for information on these before I purchase on.I live in Iowa so I think the climate is ok.I know they are kind of tricky but any suggestions?BeforeI purchase on.I have seen the advertised from( Gurney Seed ) for 20$ plus shipping.what are your thoughts
position:
full sun brings out autumn leaf , but shield fromhot sun in summer
or the leafs will scorch in winter provide frost protection at 14degrees farenhight
watering:
daily through the growing season
MAKE SURE NO WATER FALLS ON THE LEAFS THAT ARE SUBJECTUBL TO SUN ORTHEY WILL BE SCORTCHED
and don't let the soil dry out
reppoting:
evry second year till they are 10 then when ever the root grow
tarian
full sun brings out autumn leaf , but shield fromhot sun in summer
or the leafs will scorch in winter provide frost protection at 14degrees farenhight
watering:
daily through the growing season
MAKE SURE NO WATER FALLS ON THE LEAFS THAT ARE SUBJECTUBL TO SUN ORTHEY WILL BE SCORTCHED
and don't let the soil dry out
reppoting:
evry second year till they are 10 then when ever the root grow
tarian
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They are more sensitive to both wind and sun than the green ones.sailfins wrote:I would like to try growing a red maple.I have been looking for information on these before I purchase on.I live in Iowa so I think the climate is ok.I know they are kind of tricky but any suggestions?BeforeI purchase on.I have seen the advertised from( Gurney Seed ) for 20$ plus shipping.what are your thoughts
I am [easily;)] confused are you getting seeds or a seedling?
Excuse me for a minute Sailfins, I need to address some hugely erroneous info you have received.
Tarian
BTW- Water droplets burning a leaf is a myth. There is simply not enough caloric energy in sunlight to do that, It evaporates before it could generate enough energy to scorch a leaf.
Here is the science in case you missed it in the Soil Sticky:
1/4 oz. of water absorbs approximately 540 calories of heat when it evaporates, The suns energy transmitted through a drop of dew is only 0.2 calories per minute. [url=https://www.bonsai4me.com/Basics/Basics%20Bonsai%20Myths%20Misting.html]Don't take my word for it, Harry Harrington uses the same source and agrees.[/url]
Tarian,
Have you ever seen it happen in nature?...Ever? I lived on the coast in NC for years [With maple bonsai btw] and misted/watered often in BLAZING SUNSHINE and never experienced leaf burn. Never.
Tom, It's easiest to just pm the info to Sailfins.
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Sailfins,
In your heading you indicate that you are interested in growing Japanese Maples, then later you mention just red Maple. There is a species of large leaved Maples known as Red Maples I think you want to avoid this species. Also, not all Japanese Maples are red in color some are just as green as Maples you may be familiar with.
Japanese Maples from seed can exhibit quite a bit of variability so if you want a sure thing purchase a tree from a nursery. For instance Bloodgood is a particular variety (cultivar) and must be propagated asexually, through cuttings or grafts.
If you don't mind a bit of unpredictability then by all means try some seeds. Be aware that once they are dried Japanese Maple seeds become difficult to germinate. Some retailers may not handle them correctly though. Make sure to find out if they do so.
After a bad experience a few years ago I have begun to collect my own. I collect them in October when they are ripe and store them cool and moist all winter, never allowing them to dry out. About a week ago I checked on them and they are already starting to germinate in storage.
Tom,
We allow established members to post links to commercial sites if it is an effort to help another member. We don't want spammers popping in here and leaving links though. Thanks for being conscientious enough to ask.
Norm
In your heading you indicate that you are interested in growing Japanese Maples, then later you mention just red Maple. There is a species of large leaved Maples known as Red Maples I think you want to avoid this species. Also, not all Japanese Maples are red in color some are just as green as Maples you may be familiar with.
Japanese Maples from seed can exhibit quite a bit of variability so if you want a sure thing purchase a tree from a nursery. For instance Bloodgood is a particular variety (cultivar) and must be propagated asexually, through cuttings or grafts.
If you don't mind a bit of unpredictability then by all means try some seeds. Be aware that once they are dried Japanese Maple seeds become difficult to germinate. Some retailers may not handle them correctly though. Make sure to find out if they do so.
After a bad experience a few years ago I have begun to collect my own. I collect them in October when they are ripe and store them cool and moist all winter, never allowing them to dry out. About a week ago I checked on them and they are already starting to germinate in storage.
Tom,
We allow established members to post links to commercial sites if it is an effort to help another member. We don't want spammers popping in here and leaving links though. Thanks for being conscientious enough to ask.
Norm
.Thanks for the info.Let me clarify.I am interested in growing The Japanese red maple.not Germinating from seed.That takes too long and is too unpredictible.I am looking for a good reliable source for seedlings.Please PM me.I think I will try to grow a green as well as a red one.I was wondering about the climate requirements for these trees I live in Iowa .Zone 5.I want to learn about them before I purchase them.I know the difference between species,I am just not a good typist so I use as few words as possible.
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Sailfins,
Sorry for the confusion, I guess I saw "seeds" in your initial post and got off on the wrong track. Many times named varieties (cultivars) are grafted, so watch out for ugly grafts high on the trunk. You can, of course, buy seedlings to avoid a grafting union but they will exhibit the variability I mentioned before. For bonsai, cuttings from named cultivars may be your best route. I don't think you can go wrong if you contact Brent from Evergreen Garden Works, he has a reputation as one of the best bonsai nurserymen in the country.
Here are a few links to informational websites:
[url]https://www.bonsai4me.com/SpeciesGuide/AcerPalmatum.html[/url]
[url]https://www.evergreengardenworks.com/japmaple.htm[/url]
[url]https://home.comcast.net/~okamigardens/Articles/DevelopingMaples.htm[/url]
And here are a few to nurseries:
[url]https://www.evergreengardenworks.com/acer.htm[/url]
[url]https://www.mountainmaples.com/WS4D_Cookie=9.14.03_21,29,54_8/index.html[/url]
[url]https://www.buymaples.com/[/url]
[url]https://nishikinursery.com/[/url]
[url]https://worldplants.com/mapleintro.htm[/url]
Good luck and please keep us informed.
Norm
P.S. Perhaps you should look into Korean Maple Acer pseudosieboldianum They are reputedly more hardy than Acer palmatum I have one but this is my first winter with it so I can't really say much yet.
Sorry for the confusion, I guess I saw "seeds" in your initial post and got off on the wrong track. Many times named varieties (cultivars) are grafted, so watch out for ugly grafts high on the trunk. You can, of course, buy seedlings to avoid a grafting union but they will exhibit the variability I mentioned before. For bonsai, cuttings from named cultivars may be your best route. I don't think you can go wrong if you contact Brent from Evergreen Garden Works, he has a reputation as one of the best bonsai nurserymen in the country.
Here are a few links to informational websites:
[url]https://www.bonsai4me.com/SpeciesGuide/AcerPalmatum.html[/url]
[url]https://www.evergreengardenworks.com/japmaple.htm[/url]
[url]https://home.comcast.net/~okamigardens/Articles/DevelopingMaples.htm[/url]
And here are a few to nurseries:
[url]https://www.evergreengardenworks.com/acer.htm[/url]
[url]https://www.mountainmaples.com/WS4D_Cookie=9.14.03_21,29,54_8/index.html[/url]
[url]https://www.buymaples.com/[/url]
[url]https://nishikinursery.com/[/url]
[url]https://worldplants.com/mapleintro.htm[/url]
Good luck and please keep us informed.
Norm
P.S. Perhaps you should look into Korean Maple Acer pseudosieboldianum They are reputedly more hardy than Acer palmatum I have one but this is my first winter with it so I can't really say much yet.