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sfk
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Bangkok Bonsai

we have just returned from Singapore where we did not see a single bonsai, but we did upon returning go to Bangkok to buy some fish, as we were there we went to some of the bonsai shops there, I hope you like pictures, there are about 35 of them,

[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000828.jpg[/img]
this is a part of the Bangkok live fish market, this is the wholesale section where shop keepers buy their fish,
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000843.jpg[/img]
we then went to look at some fish, imagine our surprise when we saw a bonsai in a vivarum display!
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000844.jpg[/img]

a slightly better look at it,
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000847.jpg[/img]
then another one,
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000848.jpg[/img]
this time with a couple of figures,
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000878.jpg[/img]
this was the first shop/stall we found,
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000872.jpg[/img]
a nice forest effect,
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000871.jpg[/img]
and another,
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000876.jpg[/img]
a bit difficult to see but there were some fruit on this one,
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000877.jpg[/img]
a bit easier to see here,
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000875.jpg[/img]
another from the same stall,
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000904.jpg[/img]
then time to move on, these next shops on the other side of the road that goes past Chatachat market in Bangkok,
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000890.jpg[/img]
sorry about the cables in the shot,
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000892.jpg[/img]
notice the trees chained to the tables with wheels, this is a busy main road so a snatch and grab could happen!
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000903.jpg[/img]
it was a bit difficult to know where to take pictures first,
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000900.jpg[/img]
all of the trees looked so nice,
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000899.jpg[/img]
the majority haveing moss on the base I guess to keep moisture in, it is so hot out here
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000897.jpg[/img]
I must admit I did like this group of trees in the middle of the picture,
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000898.jpg[/img]
so I asked the price, 65,000 baht, at todays rate, $2,140, £1,311, a bit out of our price and skill range!
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000896.jpg[/img]
another fine tree,
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000895.jpg[/img]
a look across the shop front,
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000902.jpg[/img]
it is a bit difficult to judge size, so this is my understanding girlfriend to give you some idea of sacle,
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000901.jpg[/img]
and with some of the smaller plants on offer,
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000908.jpg[/img]
another beauty,
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000907.jpg[/img]
for me they just keep getting better and better,
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000905.jpg[/img]
one thing I have mentioned in previous posts is that I was going to make some fast draining soil, well look at the soil in this pot,
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000906.jpg[/img]
lots of earth and coconut husks to keep the moisture in, the gravel on the outside is just decoration,
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000912.jpg[/img]
we next moved to the shop with bonsai on wheels,
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000910.jpg[/img]
this for me was a lovely forest group,
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000916.jpg[/img]
then a huge stump with just some small growth,
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000915.jpg[/img]
next another forest effect,
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000914.jpg[/img]
tree over rock,
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000913.jpg[/img]
another forest chained to it's base,
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000919.jpg[/img]
this one was the one in the shop for me, I inquired the price, you got it! the only tree in the shop that was not for sale!
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000918.jpg[/img]
the owner told us it was over 100 years old, of course it must have been repotted many times but I wonder how old the pot was?
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000920.jpg[/img]
we then made our way to the back of these shops where there is an alley way and came upon this shop,
[img]https://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h357/stanleyfk/P1000921.jpg[/img]
and found this one for sale 2,600 naht, $85.00 or £52.50 at todays rate, by now it was getting late so it was time for us to go, I hope you enjoy the pictures and sorry if I am not sure about calling trees or bonsai or the correct names of styles, we will be returning to Bangkok in a couple of months time so I will take a few more snaps and also of any bonsai we see on our travels, happy prunning! sfk.
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sfk,
Many thanks for sharing with us the matching beauty of some very serious bonsai and also of your lady. Both are so striking. Leaves me speechless.

This takes me back so quickly to my time in S.E. Asia so many years ago. My memories are so vivid. This somehow creates the images that I enjoy 'trying' to inject into my little tree projects.

Thanks again,

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:shock:

OMG. I am utterly speechless. That possibly has something to do with the drool rolling down my chin.

There's nothing, and I mean nothing around here like THAT. I mean... WOW, soooo many nice, old, quality trees all in proximity.

I take back what I said about moving there, I think I'd walk into that market, spend every last penny I had, and wind up eating dirt for the next year. That or I'd pop an aneurysm trying to decide which dozen or so to buy.

You're a very lucky man, indeed.

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Wow!! Just amazing. Those people really know what they are doing. Thanks so much for sharing this collection with us. It would be great to know they types of the trees as well, but just seeing them was great.
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Thank you so much for sharing. I'd spend so much money there!

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SKF,

Thanks for sharing. I'll definately look for that market when I go to Thailand. I can recognize the one with the red fruit being a Fukien tea and alot of the formal upright ones being various kinds of ficuses.
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kdodds,

We're all drooling! I wonder if people there drool over our pines, maples, larches, etc. which they can't grow in the tropics(?).

Here's one that puzzles me. Some of these trees are truly 'masterpiece' quality bonsai, right? Why then don't we ever hear of Thai bonsai artists touring and teaching the way Japanese, Chinese, Indonesian, American and Europeans do?

Who developed these awesome bonsai that are found in street markets in Bangkok? They're not just plunked into pots and offered for sale like our infamous 'mallsai'. It's got me wondering. But I love it. :shock:

Tom

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Why? I can venture a guess, and probably a reasonably good one at that.

First, Thailand is pretty much third-world. Industrialization and jumping in as a major player in teh world economy and political scene is still off in their future. But I think that's the least of it. As beautiful as those trees all are, go back and look again. Do you see any that subscribe to the "standard", old "traditional" designs? I can't recall a one that was not "free-form". And THAT, I think, like in any closed subculture, is what prevents the current "masters" from recognizing, what keeps the status quo. Just a guess mind you.

Truth be told, I prefer, far and away, the freestyle method of bonsai. The trees ALWAYS look more natural, more real, more like you could enlarge them and stand them next to their "wild" brethren and not be able to tell which is which. For me, "formal upright", "informal upright", perfect scalene, etc., etc., just don't hold up AT ALL in beauty when compared to the trees we've seen here. JMO.

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Dear All,

many thanks for all of your kind comments, all I know is that I like bonsai, but am not sure which style I like the best or what to call it! but the good news is as I mentioned before, that we will be back to Bangkok in a couple of months, we also had another look at the stalls we visited before here in Pattaya, but the stock they had has not changed, but as we travel about I will keep clicking away at any bonsai we see, also in passing yes I am very lucky to have retired and be living out here in Thailand, best regards to all, sfk.
Is it called progress if a cannibal is using a knife and fork? Stanisław Jerzy de Tusch-Letz, (6 March 1909 – 7 May 1966).

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your pics

:D an awesome display of creativity . I am inspired . Thanx for sharing the pics
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