bonsaidude
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Awsome thank you so much tachigi for taking time out and helpin, even tho the guy talked me up on the phone and convinced me to just stick with it (idc its only 20 bucks and hey maybe I might use it for somthing down the road). I'm ordering that stuff you linked cuase just from the decription it sounds like what I need, and you said it will help my small gall out ? that's my whole intention and tryin to buy a selant and from what I understand is it will help speed the healing prosess up ? ( Talkin bout the stuff in the jar now )
Cut paste has the consistency of clay or playdoh. Take a small bit of it and place it in the palm of your hand and roll it around to warm it...you'll end up with a ball or string like form depending on how you roll it. Apply it to the wound sparingly. You don't need a lot...meaning that ... it doesn't have to be thick...if its thickness is about that of an envelope it should do the job...the idea is your just trying to put a thin barrier in place.


From what i can see i just want to cover the gall and not place it in it ? and will this stuff eventually go away itsself or do i take it off down the road ? never worked with the stuff just wondering.


[img]https://img297.imageshack.us/img297/704/areas001.jpg[/img] ( heres the gall for you to see // also the part that lost its bark can i do it there to or do i let him heal over that himself thats if he will ? )


[img]https://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7664/areas002.jpg[/img] ( main worry in this area is the part at the bottom can i use it there ? other two im just curious if i can do it there also )

Im extremely sorry for the very beginner guestions and this whole splurge in this one reply, just worried about him and want to tend to it before more happens( on other hand he is growing like a beast and seems very happy ). Hope ur not mad and willing to answer thank you. :shock: :(

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Tachigi
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BD...lets breakdown your two pictures.

1st picture: The crack/gall leave open for now...you'll need to reapply your insecticide to it...remember re-application to break life cycles. As I mentioned earlier..just dribble...damped some into the crack. The bottom circle shows what appears to be a dead root. Scratch it gently and see if any green cambium shows...if not get rid of it...it ain't doing any good.

2nd picture:..you have some prune marks that were not sealed with cut paste. You need to determine a couple of things before covering it. The first being, is the exposed wood (heartwood) hard or has it started to rot? If its still firm then your good to go to the next step, if not you'll need to remove the rot. Callous material (new tissue) will not grow over rotted wood. Next take a craft knife and on the edge of the callous cut a very fine slice about 1/16th in thickness all the way around...this will stimulate the callous to speed the healing. If you knew that the callous was actively growing you could pass this step...but my impression is this is a new tree and you aren't aware of its growth status. After all this is done you add the cut paste

The bottom wound / cosmetic flaw is rotted..that I'm sure of...so you can do one of two things with this. Dig out the rot and clean it up and cut paste it. It will eventually close over...though it may take some time. The other option is to find a cutting/whip and plant it in the pot with the trunk wedged in the void you cleaned the rot from...as both trees grow they will graft / fuse together ..this could take as little as a year of it could take a couple...depends on how healthy the tree is and you well you feed. The only trick to the grafting is to not let the parent tree push the whip out of position as it grows. Grafting tape can help with that with a few wraps.

Option...Options :wink:
Cheers, Tom

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bonsaidude
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Awsome thank you and it was id say rotting, i cleared down a bit and its was green and cut the edgein like you said. its funny cuase i just watched on that bonsai channel thing and the guy showed that, Only reason i cleared into the scar down a tad is to also see if it looked healty in those areas and it deff looks good ( green ) i hope i diddnt harsh him but im sure hell pull threw. As far as putting the cut paste on for the best example is the bottom cosmetic scar do i take good peice of this and fill in the area or simply like paint it on ? so its a fine layer. Also i don't think i see anything in your last post about it but does this cut paste go away with time or do i remove it after sometime and see what it has done type deal ?

Heres pics of what i did on the 3 spots for now till i get the paste then tend to other areas. Should i leave these areas alone and let him do the work or should i put some paste on them when i get it ?

Let me know how i did honestly to so i don't make the same mistake twice incase i deal with this again.

[img]https://img32.imageshack.us/img32/9868/areas0012.jpg[/img]

[img]https://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1318/areas00131.jpg[/img]
Also as far as that root u can even see my cut and its pretty dead lol and if i could go down to York, PA and tip ya i would.

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BD,

Buddy...go back and re-read my post above on how to apply cut paste. Its like clay or play doh...which won't brush on :P

So far so good....now leave the thing alone till your cut paste arrives....I'm sure you have another victim...errrrrr...tree you can attend :wink:
Cheers, Tom

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bonsaidude
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lol i know your only kidding, but you say " victim " am i treating him bad or somthing ? and i was only using " brush on " as a term to very littly putting the stuff on so its forms to the curves of tree or do i want a big hunk of it there as if it would become one with the tree. :wink: but i do see now way back about the envelope thickness. so im guessin i take this off down the road ?

On the side note i think im doing better than whoever rasied this guy. Yes i have other trees but they were actually rasied way better and did not come with these problems i shouldnt have to deal with just yet.

bonsaidude
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God these little bugs are makin me mad, treated it two times already 2nd time was wendsday (saw them then to ) and i checked soil everyday since then diddnt see anything and now today i see them again. I can smell the friggin insecticde, how the hell do they still live in it ? more of just a statement not really a guestion but if u have anymore tips id take em, been usein the dampin with paper tower and not spraying method. Every 7 days like bottle said.... the one thing i want to do is repot him cuase i got him a nice new one, but its still to early correct ? i just wanna know whats going on down there.

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