japanese black pine and chinese fringe flower

[uzeyr]

hi people
well I just bought a japanese black pine from the net and would like to know all about their care so any info would be great

the same goes for a chinese fringe flower bonsai tree I bought from a garden centre its really nice and tall I have no idea on how to care for teh two species

the pines is a nice bonsai and so is te fringe flower so I really need to know hot to take care of them thanx
]btw I have teh fringe flower at the momment the pine is yet to be deliverd so any arrangements I can make for it as well would be great

thanx

[Gnome]

uzeyr,

well I just bought a japanese black pine from the net and would like to know all about their care so any info would be great

That's a pretty tall order. It can take years to learn the nuances of training Pines. For now the most important thing to know is that you need to preserve the low branches. Unlike most deciduous trees (Maples or Elms) that back bud easily Pines will not back bud on old wood so readily. Once those lower branches are gone your styling options are greatly limited.

In order to achieve movement and taper one of your lower branches will eventually become your new leader. One may also become your first branch, you will not be able to make any decisions until you receive the tree. In the meantime all growth helps to build bulk in the trunk and should be encouraged and not pruned unless it begins to interfere with the all important lower branches.

Here are some links to get you started on your research.

https://www.bonsai4me.com/SpeciesGuide/Pinus.html
https://www.evergreengardenworks.com/pines.htm
https://www.evergreengardenworks.com/pines2.htm

Norm

[uzeyr]

thanx norm well this is the pic I got of the tree I hav to yet see it it was mistake when I bought it I kind of bidded for it but am glad I have a pine now
tell me what u think of the so far tree in the pic
but I havent seen it yet the other pic( tree in the blue pot ) is a tree I was gona get but picked the other instead (price was high but not big diffrence )

the one I bought
[img]https://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo259/uzeyr_bonsai/ea14_1.jpg[/img]

the one I was goign to buy
[img]https://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo259/uzeyr_bonsai/afb4ba05b5ab645d0c0db1b22241b5b5_I'm.jpg[/img]

[uzeyr]

OK I GOT THE TREE NORM ITS AMAZING I LOVE THE TREE AM GOING MAD LOOKING AT IT I wanna take good care of it so justa few things I noticed its really got a craggy bark
but many of the needles have been cut through I mean alot of the needles I think to reduce teh size but will it affect the tree ? also the wire are still lon teh whole tree don't look like th3ey are biting in but there are wires
my main concern is the needles that have been cut what do u have to say about that ?

[Gnome]

uzeyr,

OK I GOT THE TREE NORM ITS AMAZING I LOVE THE TREE AM GOING MAD LOOKING AT IT

I can see why you are pleased, it is a nice looking Pine. Good for you. I like it better than the taller one but I am not really a fan of the literati style.

I noticed its really got a craggy bark

Use caution when you handle it, you don't want to dislodge any of the plates.

many of the needles have been cut through I mean alot of the needles I think to reduce teh size but will it affect the tree ?

This is not the way that needles are reduced on a Pine, I think the grower took a 'short cut'. Needles are reduced by timed pruning of candles, not simply shortening the needles. There is not much you can do about it now. The tips may brown at the cut sites but I don't think it will effect the health of the tree.

If you have not read the articles on Evergreen Gardenworks I strongly suggest you do so, then read them again. Your tree is more advanced than I envisioned and you need to learn to maintain it rather than simply grow it out as I alluded to before.

also the wire are still lon teh whole tree don't look like th3ey are biting in but there are wires

As long as they are not cutting into the branches you are OK. When you decide to remove the wire cut it off carefully, don't try to unwind it in order to reuse it.

Are there buds that look like they are ready to open up soon?

Norm

[uzeyr]

well I can see loads of buds around but soem of teh needles are brown and have fallen but others are green I will post pics of teh tree from inside maybe u can tell me more from ther
lol
btw thanx for telling me about teh bark I had never thought that if teh "plates " we handled they could fall off
thanx

[uzeyr]

ok I have posted a few pics to show the inside of the tree
notice these things
the needles are cut well some of them then they are like brown needles as well
there are a few buds but they don't look like they are about tio extend its spring are they abit late ??!!!!

[img]https://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo259/uzeyr_bonsai/CIMG6264.jpg[/img]

[img]https://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo259/uzeyr_bonsai/CIMG6263.jpg[/img]

this looks like a bud yeah ?

[img]https://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo259/uzeyr_bonsai/CIMG6265.jpg[/img]

tthe needlesare cut
[img]https://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo259/uzeyr_bonsai/CIMG6266.jpg[/img]

the most inportant pic for me notice that clupm of little needles at the bottom centre they are small
and I'm guessing I the tree is healthy it will extend these ?

[img]https://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo259/uzeyr_bonsai/CIMG6267.jpg[/img]

I think this was lat years candle cut back ?
[img]https://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo259/uzeyr_bonsai/CIMG6269.jpg[/img]