Four o' Clocks, and adventures with native trees.

[JennyC]

Just ID'd Four o' Clocks outside my kitchen door (or rather, my mom did when she came to visit). What are they and do I have to cut 'em down (don't wanna)?

Had a moment of excitement, thinking I'd found an American Chestnut about 15 feet tall across a pasture from the house. But sadly, on closer examination, it's Cephalanthus occidentalis, "button bush."

I do have Elliottia racemosa, "Georgia Plume" in the yard, which was unknown in this area and endangered in-state in 1990 (when my copy of Trees of Georgia and Adjacent States was printed). This one I'm absolutely sure of; it matches leaves, fruit, and bark, and the fruit is distinctive. Guess I'll call my extension agent and tell her about it, though she may make me cut my yellowbells that are creeping in on it.
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Jenny C

[hendi_alex]

I hear that four o'clocks can be invasive. They do produce a large volume of big easy to grow seeds. Have tried to grow the plants here with only limited success, though do have a couple of plants that germinated this year. My yard is surrounded by trees. Where are the four o'clocks going to go? I would think that these flowers could be aggressive and a problem in an area dominated by fields and meadows. Can't imagine them being a problem in areas like most of the Atlantic states that tend to be dominated by forest. As has been pointed out by others before, a plant can be invasive in one settting and quite tame in another. The plant is not on the state invasive lists for either North Carolina or South Carolina, but GA does not have a listing on the site for some reason.

http://plants.usda.gov/java/noxiousDriver#federal

[cw]

I love my 4 0 clocks,I have the old fashioned ones which grows quite tall even in a sunny spot, then I have the rainbow kind which is a low grower around a foot tall with colours ranging from orange to yellow ,pink and the prettiest deep pink.Mostly I plant the lower growing kind near roses,as some say they are poisonous to Japanese beetles,well at least keeps the beetles away,it seems to work I see very few beetles in my garden.
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I must go down to the sea again,to the lonely sea and sky,I left my socks and shoes there I wonder if there dry.

[jenand]

I got mine from Hopes Grove Garden Nurseries and I couldn't be happier.

[a0c8c]

I had three four o clocks grow next to my house and I've been collecting seeds daily. Don't seem invasive here, so I'll be planting them next year.
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Home Gardener from Gonzales, Texas; by way of Austin; by way of Iowa.

[Gozz]

I'm growing some Four O'Clocks right now.
I actually planted the seeds about 2 days ago. (Indoors for now).

I can't tell you if they're growing yet, it's been 2 days but from the pictures, they're very nice
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Zone: 8

[Rose White]

I loved my colorful 4 o'clocks, except that they always bloomed around 7 in the evening instead of at 4. I had the shorter variety and would plant the seeds every spring.