2010 Tomato Varieties (with photos)

[Duh_Vinci]

We did this last year, so I think it's time to do this again?

2010 Tomato Varieties we grow. Let's add photos of our fruits and notes throughout the season...


Taxi - 48 days, compact, saladette type, mild sweet flavor. 2ft tall plant is absolutely loaded with fruit:


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010taxi20613/899872048_2owNK-XL.jpg[/img]


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010taxi10613/899871939_sydEg-XL.jpg[/img]


Lambada - 45 days, compact, determinate, small, 1-2oz fruit with pointy blossom end. Sharp, well balanced bright taste, great imo for such early tomato, plenty productive 2' bush


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010lambada0606/899872252_z53rN-XL.jpg[/img]


Grub's Mystery Green - 58 days, medium size Green When Ripe beefsteaks, sweet, fruity, rich flavored tomato on compact indeterminate plant:


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010grubsmysterygreen10613/899296438_urgNH-XL.jpg[/img]


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010grubsmysterygreen0613/899289767_46C3j-XL.jpg[/img]


Noire de Crimee - 50 days in my garden. Beautiful, dark fruit, and looks like plenty of it! While translation to English is the same - Black Krim, it's not exactly the same, but rather a different strain of Black Krim. 3-6oz fruits (first one was 12oz). Rich, earthy, almost smoky tones, some sweetness, very tasty tomato. Carolyn Male in her book notes it's productivity and high disease tolerance.


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010firsttomatos0605/890383683_E6c55-XL.jpg[/img]


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010noiredecrimee0613/899980107_sVWxo-XL.jpg[/img]


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010noiredecrimee0605/890398132_hdBer-XL-1.jpg[/img]


Keep'em coming and happy gardening all!

Regards,
D

[farmerlon]

superb pictures !!!

[pizzarrhea]

They all look delicious

[NCSUchick27]

They all look great!

I planted a Better Boy, a Sweet 100, and a Yellow Pear this year. I would post pictures, but there isn't much to see yet.

[Duh_Vinci]

Oh, I can assure you, there will be something to see soon! Please, do post the pictures of what you are growing!

Main garden tomatoes are starting to show their colors!!! All kinds of colors One of the most anticipated tomatoes of the year for me, originally from former USSR:

Pervaya Lyubov (First Love) - 65 days. Pastel pink/raspberry, absolutely delicious! Fruity, sweet and just enough acid to make it's flavor pop! 3-5oz fruit on clusters.


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010pervayalubov20617/904818496_SA7S6-M.jpg[/img]


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010pervayalubov10617/904818622_56c47-M.jpg[/img]


I planted this variety for my Mom, who's name also happens to be Lubov, and she was very pleased to see the plant and taste the first 3 fruits from it!

[TZ -OH6]

Is your Noire de Crimee actually the smaller variety? I got mine from Belgium in a trade and grew it side by side with Black Krim from two different sources and all three were identical. So I figure that there is probably a lot of "translated" Black Krim out there.

[Duh_Vinci]

Growth habit - I'm somewhat hesitant to say just yet, but as far as the fruit goes, Black Krim I grew last year, fruit size was allover, from near large cherry size to some reaching 16oz.

These seeds came from Tania. Fruit is more uniform is size (mostly 4oz), and definitely hardly any beefsteak shapes as Black Krim had last year. I believe that the color tint is also a little different - Black Krim last year had more "burgundy" tint, where these, so far, have more "chocolate" appearance (from both plants - one in container, one in the ground) Definitely different tint then Carolyn shows in her book... I'm also seeing much earlier ripe fruit off these plants.

If you want to try these next year for experiment, I'll be happy to send you some seeds...

Regards,
D

[LindsayArthurRTR]

Goodness you have some beautiful pictures. What kind of camera do you have?

I have a taxi tom, (it was labeled yellow tumbling tom). It and one of my black krims were also the first tomatoes I got out. You're not joking about it being LOADED. It's a very productive, very SMALL, tomato. I am impressed. It would be great for mixed planted pots.

[speedster7926]

I have a question about the tomatoes I want to plant way more next year but my mom warned me about cross pollination and said I need to group them separate and in different areas like several yards is this true and what would be your suggestion my garden is in the shape of a U but flat at the curved part lol

[TZ -OH6]

Speedster, you only have to worry about cross pollination if you are planning to save seeds, and even then you need a lot of distance between varieties because bees may fly hundreds of yards from their nest to the flowers and will hit every plant they can during those flights.

[garden5]

Wow, looks great.

As far as cross-pollination is concerned, what if you hand pollinated a flower early in the morning right after it opened and then put a plastic baggie over it until the tomato started to form. Would that work?

[Duh_Vinci]

Plastic baggy - nope, would suffocate the flower, but "sachets" or little "tule" bags would work just fine, ebay is probably the least expensive place to get them in bulk.

Few more varieties of this year:

Pink Berkley Tie-Dye - 60 days. The most intriguing color combination of anything I've ever seen! First one is larger than most on the vine... Great flavor with everything you want the tomato to be, and honestly - what a show piece on the table!


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010pinkbtd10619/906715598_X2NqV-M.jpg[/img]


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010pinkbtd20619/906715798_zjxkS-M.jpg[/img]

Fruhe Leibe - 55 days, large determinate/compact indeterminate PL leaf plant with good flavor early fruit 1-2oz, shapes mostly like a mini beefsteaks. Abundant producer, perfect for containers:


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010fruheliebe10619/906715865_rRG35-M.jpg[/img]

Brad's Black Heart - 65 days. I think that the flavor is very similar to Black Krim, and so is the texture. Many reported that number of fruits are not exactly a hear shapes - first one definitely not, very tasty tomato with nice earthy flavors (and I believe a little saltiness is present):

[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010bradsblackheart10619/906714899_yBobs-M.jpg[/img]


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010bradsblackheart20619/906715133_ks7r9-M.jpg[/img]


Bursztyn - 65 days, compact growing, but an abundant producer of this little plums 1-2oz, beautiful bright deep yellow/orange color, mild, good taste, not on the sweet side. Perfect for containers:


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010Bursztyn20619/906715407_YmnYg-M.jpg[/img]


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010Bursztyn10619/906715326_T2nw9-M.jpg[/img]


Amazon Chocolate - 65 days, PL vigorous, strong plant, loaded with these medium size beefsteaks. Rich, smoky, well balanced flavor to my taste. Most report this variety throws both, PL leaf and RL seedlings, I too found it to be true, growing both...


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010amazonchocolate10619/906714613_ivHek-M.jpg[/img]


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010amazonchocolate20619/906714816_UdTDF-M.jpg[/img]


Regards,
D

[applestar]

I love seeing the cross sections of the toms!

I have a walnut+ sized Pink Berkeley Tie-dye on the vine and noticed the tendency to make deep lobes. Can't wait to taste it!

[TZ -OH6]

The easiest way to prevent cross pollination is to go to WalMart wedding/party favors section and buy a pack of 5"x7" drawstring sachets (aka organza bags) and put one over a truss of unopened buds early in the season. I do it on the second or third flower truss (I probably should do that today, actually). Later in the season I have poor fruit set in the bags, but near 100% success early. This also gives you enough time for second chances with the same bag if none of the flowers sets fruit. Remove the bag when the developing tomatoes get too big or when you need the bag for something else. Even with big tomatoes in the bag there are usually still some flowers opening, which is the only reason to leave the bag on so long. Pinch off unfertilized flowers when you remove the bag or tie a marker string between bagged and unbagged fruit. Seeds are mature even before color change, so you don't have to let the fruit ripen all the way to get the seeds, so late season bagging that ends up with green fruit at frost may still yield good seed.

Fiddling about with other methods is more trouble than it is worth.

[Duh_Vinci]

Apple,

I've noticed that the earliest fruit set on PBTD have multiple lobes, but the fruit set on the later trusses are more uniform. Very tasty tomatoes!

TZ,

Here are few shots of the clusters of Noire de Crimme - Container:

[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010noiredecrimeecluster10620/907239495_yW6Nt-M.jpg[/img]

And the garden:

[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010noiredecrimeecluster20620/907239655_ZUcLR-M.jpg[/img]


Purple Russian - 55 days, wispy foliage, elongated purple plums with green shoulders, seems to set fruit very well in the heat (one of the later planted tomatoes). Taste - not ready to comment on it, most say "very good", but so far, first two fruits are rather bland (not uncommon for the very first fruits)... Hopefully as the season progresses, taste will "grow"

***EDIT: Huge improvement in taste now that they are readily ripening in the upper 90F weather! Mild, but sweet taste, almost no acidity, very pleasant in fact. And pumping out fruits like there is no tomorrow!!!


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010purplerussian10620/907244188_HdQ6W-M.jpg[/img]


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010purplerussian20620/907239310_mGyVf-M.jpg[/img]

Regards,
D

[TZ -OH6]

Those look like a nice salad-slicer cluster tomato. I wonder what they really are? Varieties are more or less immutable so any deviation from the norm (e.g. a strain) indicates to me a probable cross in the past introducing new genes. I could see something like Nyagous or Black Prince crossing with the true/big Black Krim to produce the cluster habit and smaller size. The thing I didn't like about Nyagous and Black Prince (other than the relatively weak "black" flavor compared to BK) is that, as salad tomatoes they had a high seed-gel (juice) to meat ratio so they were a pain to turn the dozens and dozens I couldn't eat fresh into sauce.

It would be nice if what you have there has as much meat or more than BK.

[Duh_Vinci]

It certainly does look like Nyagos, doesn't it? Skin is much thinner than Black Prince...

Tomande - 65 days, indeterminate, but on the compact side. Fruits grow in the clusters... Hybrid, I know - seeds were given to me by someone who thinks very highly of this variety, so I'm growing one. I think the fruits are absolutely gorgeous, love the ribs/ruffles. Very good tomatoe taste, almost no sweetness, nice after taste.

[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010tomande20621/909094740_zdSuj-M.jpg[/img]


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010tomande10621/909094604_36BCk-M.jpg[/img]


Regards,
D

[Duh_Vinci]

This is the best tasting tomato yet!!!

Zolotye Kupola - 60 days for this plant. Russian variety, translates as Golden Domes, named after golden domes of Russian orthodox churches. Flavor so bright - sweet, fruity, plenty of acid to balance it out, and meat, mostly meat (but very juicy, not mushy by any means). Early and favorite so far.

EDIT: Still one of the favorites! Amazing size fruits, all in 1Lb+ range, with largest at 1Lb 14oz. Simply delight!

[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010zolotyekupola0622/910319541_5gb6H-M-1.jpg[/img]


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010zolotyekupola10622/910319715_XDkUt-M.jpg[/img]


If it continues doing what's it's doing - large, delicious bright colored hearts - back in the garden next year to be a contender for a "permanent garden resident"

Regards,
D

[applestar]

One of the most unusual you've posted yet!

[Duh_Vinci]

Apple,

I would have thought the Berkley TD was the most unusual

Brandywine Cowlick's - 70 days, that is 2-3 days ahead of my BW, Sudduth's. So far - plenty of very large beefsteaks of the lower trusses. Meaty, every bit as good as Sudduth's, but seem to have more fruit (both growing side by side). Huge PL plants, need plenty of support! Delicious tomatoes! Many say that when BW produces - it is the best tomato in the garden - for me, one of the best for sure! In few days, when I get an evenly ripen fruits from both BW's - will compare the taste in more detail

[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010bwcowlicks0623/911609556_2KDzQ-M.jpg[/img]

So much juice!!!

[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010bwcowlicks20623/911609816_xwHP3-M.jpg[/img]

Regards,
D

[pizzarrhea]

Duh_Vinci, do you sell seeds for any of these for next year's growing season? I would love to start off some Grub's Mystery Green and Amazon Chocolate!

[wolfie]

D-V, I am placing my order now for one of each lol will meet you at starbucks when they are ready lol

[Duh_Vinci]

pizzarrhea,

You are welcome to have the seeds for these, just send me PM later in the fall and remind me... Amazon Chocolate is a delicious tomato indeed, and seems to be plenty productive.

[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010amazonchocolate10625/913514876_KCoow-M.jpg[/img]

But not quite as productive as White Queen - Carolyn Male mentions in her book "...The yield of White Queen is absolutely outstanding..." No kidding:

[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010whitequeen0625/913515215_F3dDM-L.jpg[/img]

Looking forward to tasting it in a day or two...

wolfie - lol, you know where the starbucks is! BTW, since all the varieties you've got are OP, don't forget to save the seeds!


Regards,
D

[wolfie]

Since I have no idea what OP is, or how to save seeds, HELP!!! lol I would be happy to, just tell me how and is it too late?

[Duh_Vinci]

Oh no, not late by any means!

Check out this step by step seed saving tips from [url=https://www.victoryseeds.com/information/seedsave_tomato.html]Victory Seeds[/url] Really easy, and rewarding! And you are preserving some rare/unique varieties too.

Regards,
D

[TZ -OH6]

OP stands for open pollinated...open to the environment for self pollination rather than a hybrid where someone has put pollen from another variety on the flower. OP is the old fashioned way. Grow variety X, save seed from variety X, grow variety X from those seeds. With hybrids you save the seed and then you get genetic segregation when you grow out those seeds. The offspring are not exactly like the parents.



To save a few seeds you can dry them with goop attached, but to get clean fuzzy seeds you need to ferment (rot) the gel off of the seeds. An easy way is to squeeze the seeds onto a ziplock bag or loosely covered container (gas builds up and can pop a top off) and add an equal amount of water. Set the bag aside at room temp or a little warmer for 4-5 days. After that, add more water, pour the primordial soup off, repeat until the gunkis gone and the seeds are left. Dry them on a paper plate for 3-4 days and package.

[wolfie]

Thanks for the great info!!! Do I need to wait until the tomatos are ripe or can I use the green tomatos I have now?

[TZ -OH6]

Late stage green tomatoes have viable seeds. If there is gell and the seedcoat does not slip off when you pinch the seed the seed is good. If you cut through the tomato and the seed gets cut instead of moving out of the way it is not done yet. Seed from unripe fruit does not ferment very easily (not enough juice) so you might want to scrub it a bit in a sieve with some cleanser to get the gel off. Look in the Potato TPS thread in the vegetable forum for a method to chemically clean seeds.

[Duh_Vinci]

TZ has extensive knowledge in tomato growing, and his method is very simple!

White Queen - 70 days, abundant producer, likely to have set most fruit in my garden so far. Pale, creamy yellow with some slight green blotches - smooth, texture, mild but plenty flavorful, fruity, sweet/tart (but mild). I find it rather delicious. And tomato after taste lingers for a good while. On the list to go back in the garden next year!

EDIT: More photos added. If you haven't grown a heirloom tomato, I would recommend this one without any reservation as one of the easiest to grow with very nice taste and great production!


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010whitequeen20626/914060825_WhywC-M.jpg[/img]


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010whitequeen10626/914060993_fNa3a-M.jpg[/img]


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010whitequeen0704/922706188_2FwYm-M.jpg[/img]


Regards,
D

[Duh_Vinci]

Bull's Heart - "Bychye Serdtse", 70 days, Russian origins tomato that always was one of our favorites from the open farmers markets many years ago. Fruits are 10-24oz, larger in the early season, get a little smaller later on. Sweet, tropical fruit like taste, mostly juicy meat with few seeds.

Favorite for flavor and continuous production all season. Wispy foliage with multiple thinner stems can grow quite large (if you'll let it) Early fruits are almost tri-colors: Orange/Pink/Red, tend to get more even coloration later in the season, and gets even sweeter. Seem to set fruit well even at the higher temperatures.


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010bullsheart10626/914060582_WL87U-M.jpg[/img]


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010bullsheart20626/914060767_Xg32o-M.jpg[/img]


EDIT: I guess now I can say 10-31oz, since I picked the largest one yet:


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010bullsheart40626/914932198_RKu67-M.jpg[/img]


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010bullsheart30626/914931848_PkeJn-L.jpg[/img]


Regards,
D

[gixxerific]

Please tell me these are not all from this years crop.

I'm still looking at mainly green tomatoes for the most part while every day you come up with a different variety that looks super yummy.

[Duh_Vinci]

Dono - actually... they are

Over the last fall and spring, I've amended the beds with local organic compost (mostly mushroom compost - guaranteed analysis had most of the important ingredients in good numbers), then, a friend of mine has some land, raises 8-10 Black Angus cows, makes his own compost from you know what And I haul couple of pickup loads from him in the fall to add to the garden, so by the spring - everything is well ready.

I think one of the major factors affecting this year amazing growth is unseasonably early, and "summer" like spring. We went from 30F frost in late April to nearly 80F in one week, and that is where most plants actually started to set early fruit.

I also believe, that since it is the first time I've given all of my seedlings (while in doors) a cold treatment, it has contributed to such large number of fruit on the lower clusters. Never done it before, will do it again next year to see if the same happens...


Anna Russian 65 days. Dusky rose color hearts, with sharper taper than some others. Again, while I'm partial to the hearts to begin with - there is no denying that it is a terrific tomato! Much like other hearts - mostly all juicy meat, very few seeds. Sweetness with a nice, little stronger acidity in taste compare to Bull's Heart - pleasure to eat, rich tomatoey flavor! Great slicer, would make great canning/sauce tomato as well!


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010annarussian10625/914113774_n45hP-M.jpg[/img]


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010annarussian20625/914113844_FU7FH-M-1.jpg[/img]


Regards,
D

[gixxerific]

There you go again, now I think you are just rubbing it in our faces.

You know I"m just playing here. Those look scrumptious as well. Keep 'em coming.

One of these day's I will be able to add something to this thread. Something is amiss in my garden this year that and the freaky weather has not been helping.

Problem is when I get a nice tomato I eat instead of taking pictures of it for the most part..

[applestar]

I LOVE this photo series you have going, DV!

I remember you mentioning the "cold treatment". Now, my seedlings can't avoid cold treatment in my unheated garage. So that explains the fruiting 6"~8" up from the ground? I worried that the plants weren't old enough, but didn't pick them off either. Now with the heat, the stems are thickening up and the plants are taking off so there's no danger of breakage unless I don't keep up with them in tying them up their supports.

I noticed you've gone "professional" with the green tapes. Do you have the device to staple it on? Can you elaborate about it in the tomato support sticky?

[Duh_Vinci]

Dono,

I can't tell you how many times I was tempted to eat them, before taking a shot (and I have eaten many before they could making into the viewfinder), but as Ted posted in his earlier thread - "anticipation" On the serious note, I get home from work, it's 95F+ outside, and when I bring tomatoes home, they are warm - really don't like eating warm fresh tomatoes, so that helps with extending the "anticipation" - I take few shots, they cool off, then we eat

Apple,

I do believe that the cold treatment makes the difference, and looks like you describing exactly what I'm experiencing with my lower trusses. I just gently lift them off and tie with that green tape so the trusses are suspended (if too many tomatoes)...

Speaking of the green tape - it is the stretchable vinyl tape, is that what you seeing? Most of my support system is 1/2" electric conduit poles (frames) with trellising net stretched over the frames... I'll take some pictures tomorrow.

Moldovan Green - 65 days. Tall, vigorous plant, setting plenty of these medium size beefsteaks. Tasty? Yes, but, since I prefer a healthy doze of sweetness in tomato, I honestly would choose Grub's Mystery Green over this one. Still a very nice tomato with plenty of fruit to feed the family.

EDIT: Flavor improved dramatically compare to fruits of the first week! Still produces plenty!


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010moldovagreen20626/914212993_g2Lxt-M.jpg[/img]


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010moldovagreen10626/914213186_x45Vh-M.jpg[/img]


Regards,
D

[Duh_Vinci]

Early Wonder Pink - 60 days (not the same as Early Wonder variety) Compact determinate, rosy/pink color, fruity taste, on the sweet side, size ranging from small cherry to golf ball. Early fruits are almost seedless. While it is very tasty, not as productive as other earlies. Prone to cracks if not picked at the right time:


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010earlywonderpink0627/914932224_72Yea-M.jpg[/img]


Regards,
D

[Duh_Vinci]

Zloty Jubileusz - 60 days. The name... Original source of these seeds are Poland, but, translation is Gold/Golden Jubilee - a variety well known here? Not sure if this is any different, but I'll keep the name as I received it for the accuracy sake...

Not sure if it det or ind yet, at 60 days mark it's about 4' tall (so I'm leaning toward det). Fruit are bright orange, quite beautiful, nearly blemish free, tennis ball size. Taste: Last year I grew Valencia, in hopes of the orange globes with sweet, fruity flavor and on the meaty side. It was all but fruity and sweet. This one on the other hand is very pleasant and everything I wanted Valencia to be! Acidic tasting gel to contrast meaty, sweet flesh - very good flavor imo.


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010zlotyjubileusz10627/915023453_vrutk-L.jpg[/img]


[img]https://drphotography.smugmug.com/Garden/2010-Garden/2010zlotyjubileusz20627/915023338_Qx9Dw-M.jpg[/img]


Regards,
D

[pizzarrhea]

Your pictures are making my mouth water, D!

[wolfie]

Taken with my phone, don't even own a camera lol mine are little still, but these are ripe!!! going to save seeds from these so I don't forget lol


Lemon Drop?? I didn't think I had any of these planted lol

[img]https://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz139/packersmom/garden%20stuff/tom3.jpg[/img]


Not sure what this is?

[img]https://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz139/packersmom/garden%20stuff/zebra3.jpg[/img]

Red Zebra?

[img]https://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz139/packersmom/garden%20stuff/tom1.jpg[/img]

Not sure lol

[img]https://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz139/packersmom/garden%20stuff/tom2-1.jpg[/img]

Red Zebra?

[img]https://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz139/packersmom/garden%20stuff/zebra1.jpg[/img]

Red Zebra?

[img]https://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz139/packersmom/garden%20stuff/zebra2-1.jpg[/img]

[Duh_Vinci]

Shan

If the seedling from those last 2 pictures came from me - it is Violet Jasper (Tzi Bi U, label 231) - give it few more days

Regards,
D