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grasshoppers, good or bad?

are they a good bug or a bad bug in the garden?

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In my NJ garden, I only see 2 or 3 at a time. In addition to these classic large sort of rectangular grasshoppers, there are katydids, and small green crickets as well as tons of brown/black crickets. They don't do much harm here.

But I believe in midwestern states, the grasshoppers swarm in massive numbers and cause tremendous destruction and damage.

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I don't like seeing grasshoppers in my garden, but it doesn't happen very often, in any case. In 1983, I visited Salt Lake City on the way to Denver.

Anyone who's visited Salt Lake City has probably seen the monument built to honor the seagulls. Here on the west coast, and in Florida, where I went to high school, they're almost a pest, but...

In May 1848, Mormon settlers in Utah were faced with crop failure because "locusts" (particularly large and voracious grasshoppers/katydids) were devouring the crops in the ground. This Plague of Locusts would have meant many deaths of men, women, and children.

When suddenly, on June 9, came an unprecedented sight: flocks of seagulls from the west (actually from the Great Salt Lake, but when travelling by foot, it's a LONG way from the foot of the Wasatch). These seagulls devoured the locusts/katydids, spared the crops which remained, and allowed the settlers to survive. In their gratitude to the seagulls, the settlers vowed to remember the seagulls "forever," and thus the seagull monument eventually was built (dedicated in 1913).

There are "folklore" accounts and "historical" accounts of this episode, but no one denies the essential facts: seagulls ate the vast majority of the insects and thereby preserved the crops.

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I have LOTS of them in my garden, this is why I ask. some that jump, soem that fly... etc. I just didnt know if I should try and get my chickens to eat them or not. only problem with that is they may do other damage in my garden, like eat my tomatoes etc... so yeah.

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Grasshoppers have a voracious appetite and will eat many of your garden crops. If you only have a few it probably won't be noticed. In the West they can come in large swarms some years. I have quite a number of them on my place this year, but so far they are not doing me much damage. They seem to be mostly staying on the grassy areas. My suggestion, kill them if you can so they don't lay eggs. Flyswatter!

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OK, so they ARE bad then... My almost 6y old likes to call it a fly slapper LOL! I should put him to the job, since we cant seem to catch them, I suppose we shall swat them! maybe that is what is eating all my plants to shreds... :roll: I was wondering what it was since I never see anything on the plants. stupid things.

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ROFL!

OK, I will try and get rid of these pests then. I was wondering what the culprit was for my plants that have disappearing leaves. I have seen grasshoppers on the leaves before but didn't see them chomping down or anything, I but they did it though. the leaves are just completely gone pretty much. esp my sunflowers. :(

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Here's a nice article on grasshopper control:

https://www.ghorganics.com/page12.html

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Get your 6 year old a little dip net from the dollar store and let him catch them for the chickens. Great protien for them. Really funny to watch the chickens practically hopping after them too.

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One thing to watch for is some of them have roundworms inside them. I found that out after catching a few in a container and seeing the worms escape the sickly grasshopper and die in the container. :x

If it weren't for that concern, I'd readily give grasshoppers to my cat to play with. He used to love catching grasshoppers and then eating them as a snack.

Back to topic:
Mostly bad.
Even so, I read an article questioning this and suggesting that they actually help some plants grow by feeding off some of their shoots.

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Gosh I have never seen that before? But then never really had a good close up look either. I'll have to do that, catch some grasshoppers and look see???

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It seems to be at the end of the season when I find diseased ones. They are easy to catch, don't hop off as quickly as healthy ones. Then again I used to catch a lot of grasshoppers throughout my childhood. Out of those, I've known distinctly three of them to have worms. One I put in water and a bunch of tiny worms came out...ewwww :x The other two had a larger worm. It emerged after the grasshopper died.

So yes if you plan to feed them to anything, you may want to either select what appear to be healthy ones (still taking a risk) or cook them first. Unfortunately my cat doesn't care for cooked grasshoppers. That is sort of a shame, because grasshoppers are high in protein and would make a good "healthy" snack and be better than those not so good byproduct junk stuff that are sold as "treats".

BTW, I did try to search for the article I mentioned earlier, but couldn't find it. I did find however that they do feed off noxious weeds that can be harmful to crops and cattle.

So I guess they aren't all bad.

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um, eww. I don't want to deal w/ my chickens getting worms!! I think I'll pass on letting them get the hoppers.... gross!

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I guess I'm lucky I rarely see any in my garden. When I do see one, I usually just leave it alone and I find that it eventually goes on its way. If you get lots of them, then you'd really start to have problems.

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Are grasshoppers good. That depends on who you ask. They aren't the greatest for your lawn or garden but if you ask the bird I watched today erratically chasing a hopper all over my yard, finally catching it for dinner, he would say "yes they are very yummy". :D

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sheeshshe wrote:um, eww. I don't want to deal w/ my chickens getting worms!! I think I'll pass on letting them get the hoppers.... gross!
Don't worry your chickens can't get worms from eating grasshoppers with worms. The adult worm does not do the infecting. If they were a type of worm that can infect chickens, the chickens would have to eat the immature larvae that are on the ground.

The large worm that was seen when the grasshopper was dying or put in water was probably a horsehair worm. They are very cool worms actually. When an infected cricket or grasshopper falls in water this huge worm comes out. You often see these worms in puddles of water after a rain.

Here is a [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df_iGe_JSzI&feature=related]youtube video[/url] of a cricket that falls in water and the horsehair worm emerges. They don't know the anything else about the lifecycle of this worm such as how does the worm infect the grasshopper.

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Sciencegal thanks for the video I think. :P It was both cool and pretty disturbing. Hard to believe that big 'ol worm was inside that little 'ol cricket.

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ewww seriously? how on earth did that FIT in the cricket?! that is whacky!

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sciencegal wrote:
sheeshshe wrote:um, eww. I don't want to deal w/ my chickens getting worms!! I think I'll pass on letting them get the hoppers.... gross!
Don't worry your chickens can't get worms from eating grasshoppers with worms. The adult worm does not do the infecting. If they were a type of worm that can infect chickens, the chickens would have to eat the immature larvae that are on the ground.

The large worm that was seen when the grasshopper was dying or put in water was probably a horsehair worm. They are very cool worms actually. When an infected cricket or grasshopper falls in water this huge worm comes out. You often see these worms in puddles of water after a rain.
Here is a [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df_iGe_JSzI&feature=related]youtube video[/url] of a cricket that falls in water and the horsehair worm emerges. They don't know the anything else about the lifecycle of this worm such as how does the worm infect the grasshopper.
that is just disturbing!

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:shock: GROSS!!!! I will NEVER look at a grasshopper the same way again.
But thanks!!!! I just figured out how to get videos on my phone!

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I had them wipe out the majority of my seedlings this year :( A true plague. Wrote a quick article on how we got them under control here:

https://www.thecelticfarm.com/get-rid-of-grasshoppers/

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You can eat the grasshoppers.

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You can eat the grasshoppers.

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I don't know why my last post got put up twice?????

Anyway, there are loads of recipes for eating grasshopper on the internet if you are interested in looking?

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My pair of baby bell peppers in a 5 gallon bucket on our 3rd floor balcony has acquired a katydid, just one. I just let him be, I figure ONE can't cause too much harm lol

Other than the fact he is loud as hell, trying to catch some ass up here on my balcony =P

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