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Don't worry, I love seeing photos from your Edible Landscape too!

As for the seeds... YOU KNOW IT! I'd love some seeds! :lol: :wink:
Could you maybe manage seeds from 2 or more different fruits, individually marked? (You know, "A", "B", etc.?) That way, I can sow 2 or 3 seeds from each one and end up with 2 or 3 trees with hopefully different genetic combinations that will allow for cross pollination. I'm pretty sure fruits from the same tree is OK.

(Please someone correct me if I'm wrong.)
I do need to warn you, the foliage has a lovely appearance, but can't take sun, and they have a rank smell to the foliage.
I've heard about the smell. :o And the part about the sun, maybe that's my problem with the one seedling tree I have. The 2nd seedling tree that was planted with it died, and this one is not growing very well either. This year, the front yard popcorn, once they grow a little bit more, will help shade it, and right now, I'm letting all kinds of weeds grow all around it in hopes that they'll nurse it along.

I think I'll try planting the seedlings from your seeds in the backyard by the back fence where it's perpetually shady from the Mulberry and the Oak trees. I can give the front yard seedling a pollination companion, too. 8) (See, I'm counting the chickens already... :lol:)

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If I get the energy, I will wander down the hill, and look in the ravine for more paw paw's, that will really give ya some diversity.

I really like to eat paw paw's so needing to get you some seed from a little more distance, at least a different tree is just a good excuse.

The tree these are on is only about 10' tall. Huge canopy, and it really gets about an hour of direct sunlight per day? I don't know if it matters, but my eastern sun paw paw died. But all the productive ones get just the setting sun. The ones with no sun at all, have no fruit! Hmm?

Oh another interesting thing... it has a huge wild rose growing right beside the trunk! That helps keep critters out!

But, I bet you can keep these pruned to a reasonable height. Just remember to keep it second story, not top!

These are right beside my forest garden, and are alot of the reason that I have to clear so carefully, the mulberries on the east and the paw paw's on the north. Thank goodness the black cohosh on the west isn't so tall or thick!

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Applestar, any chance of seeing some more wide shots of your garden? I'm so impressed by what you're doing with your suburban lot but I have a hard time imagining how you fit it all in. I would love to see photos of an established permaculture landscape as a whole, especially as I am working on designing my own.

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But Sweet thunder, if I showed wide angle views, you'll be able to see all the flaws I'm trying not to reveal! :lol: OK... Let me work on that. :wink:

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Wow! You guyes are having so much fun with all of this!

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Are these the sort of wide shots you mean, Sweet thunder?

30'+ section of Front Yard Fence Row. The shrub is Corylus americana (American Hazel). The bed to the right contains the nameless Rhubarb and two blueberries as well as some strawberries, borage, yarrow, and sedum, plus a volunteer ornamental gourd.
[img]https://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll272/applesbucket/Image7286.jpg[/img]

There's a gate and a gate arbor just to the right of the photo. Let's go inside, shall we?
[img]https://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll272/applesbucket/Image4956.jpg[/img]

Same fence from the back yard side. Gate arbor with Trumpet Honeysuckle. (7/2 update: Ruby-throated hummingbird(s?) have been visiting. I noticed about 3 days ago, and it/they have been coming around every day. I can see this arbor from my bedroom window :() Typical seasonal schedule to have them arrive for the summer in beginning of July and stay around for daily visit until some time in late Sept. I did see a fly-through male in mid~late April during their Northward migration. Still trying, but not succeeding to get them to nest in or around my garden :?)
[img]https://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll272/applesbucket/Image7284.jpg[/img]
I'm going to plant Blue Vine Milkweeds (grown from Biwa's seeds - thanks!) on the other side of the gate arbor. Just cleared the Japanese Honey suckle from there which was a volunteer that had a temporary reprieve until the native honeysuckle established. It was a home to a Robin's nest earlier this spring. 3 babies were successfully reared and fledged, but they didn't return for repeat -- I don't know if Robins do that like Mourning Doves and Cardinals or not.
The bird house on the Front Yard side -- which faces North -- isn't occupied (yet?), but a pair of House Wrens have moved into this one, so the Garden Patrol will continue. 2 Starkrimson Rhubarb, a Royal Black hot pepper, and a couple of Borage as well as a volunteer curcurbit of some sort (to be ID'd) along the first fence panel. Kiwi Gold Raspberries are along the 2nd fence panel.
Here's the Robin's nest:
[img]https://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll272/applesbucket/Image7267.jpg[/img]


Pan to the right and you'll see the Old Sunflower House garden, the Hayflake/Modified Haybale New Sauce Tomato Bed beyond, and the Espaliers against the fence.
[img]https://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll272/applesbucket/Image7285.jpg[/img]

Same fence from further back with the Yellow Crookneck in the foreground. Bamboo stakes will support spillover heirloom tomatoes, also in the Sunny Meadow Garden. A row of Green Cotton beyond the Yellow Crookneck. I also planted a Giant Orange Bell pepper somewhere in there.... :wink:
[img]https://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll272/applesbucket/Image7277.jpg[/img]

... and from even further back. The Carolina Gold Rice Paddy, which will henceforth be the Native Bog Garden, is to the right of the photo in the corner of the last fence panels. You can barely see the mulched spot at the right edge of the frame where I planted the Viburnum trilobum (American Cranberry Bush):
[img]https://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll272/applesbucket/Image7274.jpg[/img]

There! A nickel tour of this part of my garden. :D
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Hold it!
Where is the lawn swing, or garden bench?
With such a gorgeous back yard, I know you spend alot of time back there. Don't ya ever get tired, and want to just sit and enjoy?

Don't tell me a master gardener, has only a fold up chair, which you drag out when you go?

Or, or, works so much there is no time to just enjoy?

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:lol: If you look [url=https://www.helpfulgardener.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=143280#143280]here[/url]. You'll see that the tour ended at my hammock under the plum trees. :wink:

Where the folding chair is, I want to put down a tiny flag stone patio and one of those metal cafe table and chairs. But a folding chair will suffice for now. :D

BTW, I supplemented many of the previous photos in this thread with update photos from late June. Take a look if you'd like to see the progression from Spring to Summer. 8)

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It's beautiful, applestar. Thanks so much for posting those. It must seem like there are surprises around every corner in your garden!

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Thank you for your kind words :D Some day, I'll get everything the way I envision.... Half the fun is in the planning though! 8)

...and the plants have a way of surprising you.
For instance, I'm not sure if I allotted enough space for the yellow squash.... :shock:
[img]https://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll272/applesbucket/Image7410.jpg[/img]

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In a word.....FANTASTIC!

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Latest Front Yard Fence Row --

Atlantic Giant Pumpkin side:
[img]https://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll272/applesbucket/Image7421.jpg[/img]

Bushel Gourd side:
[img]https://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll272/applesbucket/Image7422.jpg[/img]

Further to the right -- California #5 buckeye peas ends at this fence post and Azuki beans are planted to the right. Sweet potatoes are taking off and have met the Bushel Gourd.... Well, there's always the lawn for them to spread out to. :lol:
[img]https://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll272/applesbucket/Image7423.jpg[/img]



It sort of tell you something that the popcorn is growing the best here out of the 3 corn locations I planted this year. Didn't I say at some point that my sunniest spot is out in the front lawn? I'm eye'ing up the area in front of the Fence Row for next year's expansion... 8)

BTW, another reason the corn might be doing so well is because I planted them IN what was originally a small swale for the PawPaw tree, which drains the overflow out of the Native Bog Garden (former Carolina Gold Rice paddy). Despite the current drought conditions, the popcorn is always getting moisture. I planted the Atlantic Giant here because I had the notion that pumpkins need more water than gourds.

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The Yellow Crookneck has been producing despite the drought, and I finally got the chance to make my Squash Duckies 8) :()
[img]https://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll272/applesbucket/Image7463.jpg[/img]

https://www.helpfulgardener.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=148727#148727

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I've added some update photos to the first post: https://www.helpfulgardener.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=131442#131442

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was just talking to my husband about your tomato trellis on your house (he said your house looked like ours, ours is grey siding too)..anyway..I'm thinking in future summers I'll plant trellises on the front of our house..I'm tired of having to draw the shades in the summer to keep the house cool..plan is going in my brain

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Latest Front Yard Fencerow Photos:

Atlantic Giant has succumbed to SVB, but some leading vines are still crawling along the front of the popcorn. Potato Silos have been harvested and the chickenwire towers removed. The California #5 Blackeyed peas turned out to be super vigorous. They love to sneak in between the fence to tangle up in the espalier fruit trees.
[img]https://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll272/applesbucket/Image7783.jpg[/img]

Bushel Gourd is taking over the fence row, and are fruiting:
[img]https://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll272/applesbucket/Image7779.jpg[/img]
[img]https://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll272/applesbucket/Image7781.jpg[/img]
[img]https://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll272/applesbucket/Image7780.jpg[/img]
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great photos..great garden..I love this stage of my garden..I feel like I am in a little secluded wonderland..a fairy tale..maybe peter rabbit

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This is an old thread, but I realized These pictures I posted in another thread would be a great way to complete it :wink:

We painted the bushel gourds and had colorful popcorn for fall decoration that year:
applestar wrote:[img]https://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll272/applesbucket/Image8243.jpg[/img]

[img]https://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll272/applesbucket/Image8244.jpg[/img]
The gourds dried out well over the winter with occasional alcohol rub to keep down the mold.

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Do you take the mango and avocado trees inside?
In winter how long can they stay in those pots?
Is it hard to grow rice?

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applestar wrote:The Yellow Crookneck has been producing despite the drought, and I finally got the chance to make my Squash Duckies 8) :()
[img]https://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll272/applesbucket/Image7463.jpg[/img]

https://www.helpfulgardener.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=148727#148727
Pretty cute those quack me up.

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applestar wrote:The Yellow Crookneck has been producing despite the drought, and I finally got the chance to make my Squash Duckies 8) :()
[img]https://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll272/applesbucket/Image7463.jpg[/img]

https://www.helpfulgardener.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=148727#148727
Pretty cute those quack me up.



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