Sam M.
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Need to Identify this Bonsai Species

Hello all, I am new to Bonsai! Iv always admired authentic bonsai trees from the first time I saw them at my local Garden Nursery.

I just got my first one the other day and I am confused on what type of tree it is. I was told it is a pithecellobium dulce (or more commonly know as a rain tree) but when I google it, I get other types of tree that are similar but not the same.

I was only able to find this picture of it online, but the site was entirely in Japanese. Could anyone identify it? [img]https://aoki2.si.gunma-u.ac.jp/BotanicalGarden/HTMLs/kinkiju.html[/img]

Kinda confused how to post pics...

I really appreciate ANY help!!! Thank you!

Sam

ynot
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Sam M. wrote:Hello all, I am new to Bonsai! Iv always admired authentic bonsai trees from the first time I saw them at my local Garden Nursery.
Welcome 8).
I just got my first one the other day and I am confused on what type of tree it is. I was told it is a pithecellobium dulce (or more commonly know as a rain tree) but when I google it, I get other types of tree that are similar but not the same.

I was only able to find this picture of it online, but the site was entirely in Japanese. Could anyone identify it? [img]https://aoki2.si.gunma-u.ac.jp/BotanicalGarden/HTMLs/kinkiju.html[/img]
Here is the translated Japanese from the page you linked to ... The text is not especially helpful wrt bonsai care...:
Scientific name: Pithecellobium dulce
 Place of origin: Chubei

 It is the evergreen tall tree of tropical American original product. The white flower is attached. The material is a water resistance and the construction material, the bark is used although the dye and the skin are tanned. Because there is long sharp [toge] in the branch, as a hedge it is planted so is.
..And it ends just like that.... :shrug:
Kinda confused how to post pics...
Photo tips & How-to's are at: https://www.helpfulgardener.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3557
I really appreciate ANY help!!! Thank you!

Sam
Hope you get it sorted, Here is a picture of a Pithecellobium dulce: [img]https://www.knowledgeofbonsai.org/galleries/shows/06/jakarta/43.jpg[/img]

See these two sites for more general info on bonsai and their care requirements: https://www.bonsai4me.com/Basics.html
https://www.evergreengardenworks.com/articles.htm

Good luck

ynot

Sam M.
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Ahh thank you for that link, I found my camera and took a few, these were some of the quickies I took...

[img]https://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/Ralisk/Front2.jpg[/img]

and a closer look at the leaves if it helps at all...

[img]https://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee1/Ralisk/Leaves.jpg[/img]

Now are you saying that Bonsai pic you posted is a larger version of this one? :)

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Sam M. wrote:Ahh thank you for that link, I found my camera and took a few, these were some of the quickies I took...
Your welcome.
These pictures are a bit large - You can use this free program to resize [& then replace] them: https://www.irfanview.com/
Now are you saying that Bonsai pic you posted is a larger version of this one? :)
Possibly, Although maybe not as bonsai at garden centers are notorious for being labeled incorrectly [If at all].

Pithecellobium tortum is the latin name of the Brazilian Rain Tree, Pithecellobium dulce is commonly referred to as the Manila tamarind, or Monkeypod.

For more on the differences see the info & photos:
Monkeypod:
Info: https://www.google.com/search?svnum=10&um=1&hl=en&safe=off&rlz=1T4SUNA_enUS232US232&q=pithecellobium+dulce+&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iw
Photos: https://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&um=1&hl=en&safe=off&rlz=1T4SUNA_enUS232US232&q=pithecellobium+dulce+&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

Rain Tree:
Info: https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&rlz=1T4SUNA_enUS232US232&resnum=0&q=brazilian+rain+tree&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iw
Photos: https://images.google.com/images?hl=en&safe=off&rlz=1T4SUNA_enUS232US232&resnum=0&q=brazilian+rain+tree&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

Hope this helps 8).

ynot



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