Hi all!
I've had this lovely 8 year old Chinese Elm for a couple of weeks now and it looks surprisingly happy! (Plants don't tend to last long in my house! )
I've kept it trimmed and watered and now I'm turning my thoughts to training it.
It has a strong looking shoot forming quite low down on the trunk - I'd like to turn this into a branch, sweeping downwards. How would I do this? If I don't trim it soon it'll be halfway out the door! As I understand it, as it grows longer it will also thicken; so when it's thick enough do I then trim it to size?
Also, on the other side of the trunk (low down) is a fairly solid branch which I think needs encouraging in a slightly different direction (downwards). I expect that it needs wiring for this, but it's quite strong - won't the wire just bite into it? Could I use some form of weight instead?
So many questions from a newbie!
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Lotsa questions...
Even if that low shoot doesn't quite suit for a branch leaving it can be beneficial. Letting it shoot out allows the caliper of the shoot to increase (it should be thicker than the branches above) and even if you don't like it as a branch, it will still help0 to thicke the trunk below it. This is known as a "sacrificial branch" and is an old trick for fattening thin trunks.
As for wire vs. weights, that is an age old question. The weights are not as a specific way to get the bends and twists you might want, but the weight won't cut the branch as it grows. On the other hand the weight will usually start the bend in the middle of the branch UNLESS you notch the crotch (on top) so the bend starts near the trunk. I'm a wire guy, but that means no direct sunlight for prolonged periods in the summer, another minus. Like so many other things in bonsai, finding your own way is the only way...
Scott
Even if that low shoot doesn't quite suit for a branch leaving it can be beneficial. Letting it shoot out allows the caliper of the shoot to increase (it should be thicker than the branches above) and even if you don't like it as a branch, it will still help0 to thicke the trunk below it. This is known as a "sacrificial branch" and is an old trick for fattening thin trunks.
As for wire vs. weights, that is an age old question. The weights are not as a specific way to get the bends and twists you might want, but the weight won't cut the branch as it grows. On the other hand the weight will usually start the bend in the middle of the branch UNLESS you notch the crotch (on top) so the bend starts near the trunk. I'm a wire guy, but that means no direct sunlight for prolonged periods in the summer, another minus. Like so many other things in bonsai, finding your own way is the only way...
Scott
Thanks Scott. You've given me something to think about.
So I'd need to let that shoot carry on growing so that it becomes 'woody'? And then trim it to length. I would like the branch on the other side to balance it out, and then the ends of each branch can be a lovely mass of greenery.
I'm not sure that I can get that other branch to twist the way I want it to. It's fairly thick, and it takes quite a lot of pressure to make it bend. Then it springs back when I let go. If I were to notch it, would that not increase the likelyhood of disease getting in? I don't want to lose that branch because there's nothing else on that side of the tree.
So I'd need to let that shoot carry on growing so that it becomes 'woody'? And then trim it to length. I would like the branch on the other side to balance it out, and then the ends of each branch can be a lovely mass of greenery.
I'm not sure that I can get that other branch to twist the way I want it to. It's fairly thick, and it takes quite a lot of pressure to make it bend. Then it springs back when I let go. If I were to notch it, would that not increase the likelyhood of disease getting in? I don't want to lose that branch because there's nothing else on that side of the tree.
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I've had an idea about that thick branch. Instead of bending it, I think I'm going to encourage one of the shoots at the end to become a new branch and point that downwards to create the same effect.
I must be doing something right, because there are absolutely loads of new shoots all over it at the moment!
I must be doing something right, because there are absolutely loads of new shoots all over it at the moment!
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